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Episode 132: Live From the 2024 Carolinas Conference

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Join Chad Kintzer, Justin King, Jake Teeter, Bryan Epland, CTEM, Moe Rateb, and host Trent Manning as they recap the highlights of the 2024 Carolinas Conference and Tradeshow and TETAC annual education events. From the latest equipment advancements to top-notch education sessions, our guests share their takeaways, including insights on autonomous and remote-control mowing technology.

Learn how CTEM attesting prep can help your facility get ready for a voluntary OSHA mock inspection. Hear why regional shows like Myrtle Beach’s Carolinas Conference are a must-attend for networking, learning, and reconnecting with your newest old friends.

Get inspired to make the trip to a local, regional or national event for education, camaraderie, and fun!



Chad Kintzer:

Over fucking yum yum

Trent Manning:

sauce Yeah, I just hit record.

MIC2:

hit record. Oh. That's

Trent Manning:

That's why we got bleep bleep

MIC2:

got bleep, bleep, bleep. I downloaded, I

Trent Manning:

I downloaded the new ringtone. Er, not ringtone, but Audio clip of bleep. Just for this. Yeah. So we can,

Jake Teeter:

Good job, Chad. Good job, Justin. It's

Trent Manning:

so we can get rid of all this stuff.

Chad Kintzer:

for you.

Trent Manning:

All right. I think about what I'm gonna say. Yeah, this is normally what I do. I just sit here and say, Hmm, what am I gonna say?

Chad Kintzer:

going to say now?

Trent Manning:

What am I gonna say now?

Chad Kintzer:

One thing is late.

MIC2:

Better case.

Trent Manning:

Mm hmm. Dedicated.

MIC2:

Only 10. 30 Tuesday, November 19. Tuesday,

Trent Manning:

What? November 19th. Yep.

MIC2:

November 19.

Trent Manning:

Tuesday, November 19th. And we're at the Dunes Golf Club with Chad Kinzer. And, Moe, how do you say your last name? Cause I know I'm gonna screw this up. Rat tip. Rat tip. Like rat tip. Like a rat tip.

MIC2:

I never pronounced

Trent Manning:

Sorry, sorry man.

MIC2:

sorry, man. I would have

Trent Manning:

Like a rat tip. Yeah, yeah, no, that's all good. And Jake Teeter. And Justin, your last name? Is it King? Is it really King? Man, I don't know why I was, I was thinking it was King. And then I was like, no, there's no way that's right. It's not Justin King. It's Justin something else. No, it's Justin King. And Brian Eplin. And yeah, anyway, we're here for the what is the official name? The Carolina?

Chad Kintzer:

Show. Show?

Trent Manning:

conference, conference and trade show, conference and trade show big t tag meeting of the minds. How many people do we have in class today? It was up there. How many did we have after lunch?

MIC2:

Probably about 40.

Trent Manning:

And then how How many did we have after the raffle

MIC2:

Well, okay, so

Chad Kintzer:

it was a little better after lunch. I think everybody was pretty much there still after lunch, but I'm pretty sure after the raffle,

Justin King:

gone. We'll see how many people are there after Tuesday.

MIC1:

Yeah. No,

Bryan Epland:

is odd, because you think, I mean, with you having that new, new class, I

MIC1:

care.

Bryan Epland:

don't think that would draw a crowd. No

Trent Manning:

I mean, honestly, it's the last day of the show is always the last day of show. And it doesn't matter if it's the Carolina show or the national show or whatever kind of show it is. The last day is the last day and people want to leave early. I don't I don't know what the deal is, but I'm all for staying to the end. But most people don't like to do that.

MIC1:

I mean, you know, I came down here to go to

Bryan Epland:

go to this to educate myself, so. Staying at the end just makes sense to me, but I suppose if you're a guy that's got to drive a certain distance, I mean, maybe not.

Chad Kintzer:

Well, you're staying until Thursday

Justin King:

anyway, so. Well, I mean, they do do the option for Tuesday only. Oh, I know. Yeah,

MIC2:

how

Trent Manning:

you get like a 10 break if you only take

MIC2:

more than that. Well, you

Chad Kintzer:

know, I think it's only for the show, though. That's for the show. Like, you can do the conference, you know, just one day. But just still the classes, I think it would be the full, both days, I don't know. I

Moe Rateb:

don't know. I just clicked all the boxes and submitted the invoice.

Trent Manning:

Yeah, that's the best way. Take it from Moe, you heard it here. Click all the boxes, send in the invoice.

MIC2:

it. That's great.

Trent Manning:

Just make sure you got a PO number to go with

MIC2:

it. Jake. He's looking at the conference. Yeah, yeah. What

Trent Manning:

What are you figuring out over

MIC2:

there? Jake? I don't know how he can see it through the freaking earpieces. You

Justin King:

should open the glasses up before you try to look. I wish we had video for that

Jake Teeter:

one. Yeah, we don't. We need to get a video going. 95 for the full package. 195

Trent Manning:

for the full

Jake Teeter:

That's not too bad. Yeah. Tuesday only is

Trent Manning:

So you

Jake Teeter:

so you save 30

Trent Manning:

30, 30, 30 saving,

MIC2:

Tuesday's a long day though. Yeah. yeah.

Trent Manning:

No, it is a long day.

MIC2:

short day. Yep for sure

Trent Manning:

What was the most interesting thing y'all seen? And we'll go one at, one at a time and we're going to start with Chad.

Chad Kintzer:

Most interesting thing we've seen at the

MIC1:

Yeah,

Trent Manning:

yeah. Whatever. I don't, my face, whatever. I don't care.

Chad Kintzer:

Most interesting thing. I really like the steel, the steel presentation was really good. I was out talking to them after we were all done. and the I like the zero turn electric zero turn. They have, that's pretty neat. We were out there checking it out. You can add, they have a blower attachment for the front of it and everything. And I'm interested in me because we try to blow off the parking lot with one of those big skag. Stand on blowers and that thing is so loud. We actually had the hotel across the swash call and complain. It was waking up hotel patrons and we're like, okay, so I mean that would be something I think would cut down on noise.

MIC1:

So they had

Trent Manning:

it here,

MIC2:

Yeah, it was sitting

Chad Kintzer:

out, it was sitting outside.

MIC1:

Yeah. I

MIC2:

it.

Chad Kintzer:

Yeah, they had the zero turn and then they had the sit down one and they also had the one you stand on. They were both there and I was talking to them and I guess they do eight hours, but it depends on if you're just doing a maintenance cut or if you're doing like, you know, cutting a whole bunch of grass. Sorry. So if it's a whole bunch of grass, he said it would probably, you know, I mean, there's no set like how much it changes it, but he said that it will change the time that obviously the draw on it would be a lot more. So be less time.

Trent Manning:

So if they were mowing a lot of grass. Yeah. It wouldn't

Chad Kintzer:

run as well. He said it's 8 hours. 8 hours on like a maintenance cut. Hmm. I thought that was pretty good. We don't run ours ever for 8 hours in a day

Trent Manning:

like that. Right. I know. Our operators don't operate for eight hours a day.

Chad Kintzer:

sit down and watch them a lot.

Trent Manning:

you know, they're on their phones for at least an hour a day in the woods somewhere.

Chad Kintzer:

Yeah, that's one of the problems. One of our guys, he used to do that all the time. Picking up golf balls in the woods, he'd get all kinds of crap stuck underneath the blades. Yeah.

MIC1:

What do you

Trent Manning:

think Mo?

Moe Rateb:

I like Kayla's presentation about CTM attesting. And it was a lot more than I thought it would be. Like, just the fire extinguisher part. Where the signs should go instead of just having them there to check a box again. But yeah, so that gives me like, you know, the next year or something to Work towards,'cause this year will be my second year. And then my third year will be following after that. So I'll be ready for that.

MIC1:

You got your E. M. C. One and

MIC2:

two.

Moe Rateb:

I got the study guides and all that. Just need to sit down and do'em. Mm-Hmm. you know, you can do'em. They pay for two

Chad Kintzer:

classes a year. What do you mean at ttac? If you can register to take classes, you can do two classes a year. They'll send you the books, and you can go take the test. Two of them a year they do. Oh, well you

Moe Rateb:

can take them online. Right,

Chad Kintzer:

sure you can, but you don't have to pay for them. The GCSA pays for them. The Carolinas. My city pays for them. Well sure, my work paid for ours

MIC2:

too, but.

Trent Manning:

But you moved off a t tac and got yours paid

MIC2:

for it. Most of them.

Trent Manning:

instead of getting your club to play for him. Yeah.

MIC1:

Okay. Make

Moe Rateb:

like six of them. Oh yeah. And the other thing R and R has that program still where they you get a credit basically of 115 bucks to pay your GCSA dues.

Trent Manning:

hmm. Yeah, everybody know about

MIC2:

that. Jake.

Trent Manning:

Nope. Jake didn't know about that.

MIC2:

know about that. Yeah. Jake pulls the flags out on the tri plane.

Chad Kintzer:

Do you remember that?

MIC2:

I

Trent Manning:

think that was my

MIC2:

first year. I was

Chad Kintzer:

telling that story the other night. I don't know who I was telling that to, but it was so funny. We were just dying laughing. Remember that? We were all sitting around the table having a good time talking, you know, just whatever. And you're like, yeah, I was doing, I don't even remember what you were trying to do. And I'm trying to drive across the green and pull the flag out off the mower and we're all like, what? And I'm like,

MIC2:

what?

Chad Kintzer:

And you're like, what man, that's the way I was taught to do

Trent Manning:

yeah. No, that's a big, big no, no. At most places.

MIC2:

thanks.

Trent Manning:

we do

MIC1:

things. Doubling down.

Justin King:

Double in doubt.

Trent Manning:

down. He's

Justin King:

He's not giving up.

MIC2:

Did

Moe Rateb:

you at least have your seatbelt on? He might even add flip flops

MIC2:

along the way. Maybe Crocs.

Moe Rateb:

Safety flops.

Chad Kintzer:

Steel, steel bottom flops. With the bottle opener.

MIC2:

When

Trent Manning:

I worked for Jerry Pate, I was at Georgia, Georgia Southern University. And I don't remember.

MIC2:

He was

Trent Manning:

coach of some sort, and I don't remember what coach he was. But he got a brand new 3500,

MIC2:

and I

Trent Manning:

don't remember why I was out there. But I'm talking to the guy, and he said, The only problem I have with this mower is when

MIC2:

I

Trent Manning:

put my beer in the cup holder, grass gets in my

MIC2:

beer.

Trent Manning:

And yeah,

MIC2:

is, I

Trent Manning:

I just can't deal

MIC2:

with it. So he

Trent Manning:

he had come up with his own. I forgot about that from last

MIC2:

here.

Trent Manning:

No, no. Yeah. The refrigerator running or freezer or whatever it is.

MIC1:

Yeah.

Moe Rateb:

Does it have an alarm?

MIC2:

That is the alarm. Well, it's good to see they got it fixed. Yeah, yeah. Hey, it's a brand new one.

Bryan Epland:

Nah, compared to Okay.

Chad Kintzer:

Sign language. No beeps for that one.

MIC2:

video, we'd have to blur that out. It'd be a little blur.

Trent Manning:

A little blur.

Jake Teeter:

do you

Trent Manning:

think, Jake? What would you like? What'd you enjoy?

Jake Teeter:

The most amazing thing I saw was Justin King eating five plus sushi rolls.

MIC2:

Hmm.

Trent Manning:

Yeah, what was the count on that? What was the total

MIC2:

count? Well, because

MIC1:

it's the last.

Trent Manning:

How many did you order? Let's

MIC2:

start order three.

Trent Manning:

He ordered three. He ate those

MIC2:

in three

Trent Manning:

minutes and 33 seconds. Fastest sushi eater I've ever seen.

Bryan Epland:

then whatever else

Trent Manning:

ring. And

Justin King:

were partials so it's hard to tell now

MIC1:

I

Justin King:

to guess, it was somewhere between five and six rolls.

MIC2:

okay,

Trent Manning:

that's that's fair

MIC2:

So

Trent Manning:

you feeling? Right, right ready to go for a run.

MIC2:

Ready to go, yeah.

Trent Manning:

ready go for a

MIC1:

run

Moe Rateb:

Justin Yum Yum King. Okay.

Trent Manning:

Yeah, I mean I'm down with that.

Moe Rateb:

He

Bryan Epland:

wanted to tell that story without the language. Not the weirdest nickname I've ever had.

MIC1:

Yeah.

Trent Manning:

Yum Yum. But yeah, y'all want to tell the story? Might as well. We're talking about

MIC2:

it.

Chad Kintzer:

So we're sitting there eating, of course. And, brian and I are just stupid for some reason. I don't know why. We always are. And he's like, look, he's like, there's some yum yum sauce over there. And for whatever reason, Justin had his back to us and we were acting like we were going to put it over there and say, here, the waiter put it over there for us. But I'm like, nah, I just hit him on the side. I just go, Hey man, I said, you want some yum yum sauce? And he goes, you interrupted my effing conversation for effing yum yum sauce. And he looked at me like I was, like it was my wife looking at me. He gave me the dirtiest look. He was so mad. I was like, I was defeated. I was like, I hung my head. I was like, but it's yum yum sauce. It was very funny. What about the, what about our waiter that looked

MIC1:

like

Trent Manning:

yeah, I don't, I don't think we should go

MIC2:

there.

Trent Manning:

Yeah. Yeah, I, I, I would like to release this episode. So I really, I really don't think, I really

MIC2:

don't

Trent Manning:

think we should

MIC2:

we should get there. No. Okay. Yeah.

Trent Manning:

I mean we could just for fun and then we'll I'll

MIC2:

just edit

Trent Manning:

all out if you want to but Yeah, that's not

MIC2:

somehow.

Trent Manning:

that's not something that we can air.

Jake Teeter:

But on a serious note, I agree with Mo about Kayla's presentation. And a lot of it has to do with the fact that we've got an OSHA inspection coming up in December. And she raised a lot of good points about what we've got to get ready for.

MIC1:

Yeah, how do you know

Trent Manning:

you got an OSHA?

Jake Teeter:

We scheduled it.

MIC1:

it.

Trent Manning:

Okay.

Jake Teeter:

It's a free thing. OSHA will come out and inspect your shop, give you a list of what you've got to fix, and tell you how much time you've got to fix it, and figure out how much money you've got to spend to fix it.

Moe Rateb:

Oh yeah, we had, we had that earlier this year. Yeah, it's not too bad.

Trent Manning:

Yeah, I mean, that's a good service. Yeah, how would you set that service up?

Jake Teeter:

You just contact OSHA and say we want your, I think they call it mock inspection. Okay. And they'll schedule when, and they want to come out in the middle of summer, which is a busy season.

MIC1:

hmm.

Jake Teeter:

Can you come in the winter? We get a chance to get everything kind of straight.

Trent Manning:

yeah.

MIC2:

So.

Trent Manning:

And when did you say they're coming?

MIC2:

December 10th, I think. Okay, So, December 11th, you'll be looking for a job.

Trent Manning:

How about you, Justin? What, what did you enjoy

Justin King:

I also enjoyed the steel class. I thought the, the battery stuff was interesting. Cause whether we like it or not, you know, it's gonna get there at some point. And that was the first I heard of the claim that their batteries can last 7 to 10 years. That's a bold claim. Yeah, I would agree with that. But if it's true, I mean, that's, it makes the upfront cost seem a little bit

Bryan Epland:

better. It kind of offsets Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Chris Eden, the territory manager where I'm at in Nebraska, he, he had a price chart that kind of compared it over, like, say it was like five years, and it was like apples to apples. By the time you do fuel and oil, you know, anything, you know, carbon air parts, air filters, things like that, so.

Chad Kintzer:

Well, that's what he said when we were out there talking to him. He said five years, he said. Actually, I didn't even think he said it was that long. I mean, he said it was a couple years. Yeah, I mean, I was just throwing a number down. No, no, I could find the

Bryan Epland:

document of it. Do

Chad Kintzer:

you have it with

Bryan Epland:

you? Yeah, I keep it in my back pocket. Thank you.

Justin King:

I mean, it seems like things like the, again, like, that's true, longevity, they've kind of taken care of. Power, it seems like these battery tools have good power. I think the biggest thing will be weight for some of these tools. So, but it'll get there, I mean, but I thought that was interesting.

Trent Manning:

definitely the the backpack and the

MIC2:

weight I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

Trent Manning:

something it's gonna be hard to we'll have a hand truck with a battery rolling it around for a backpack

Bryan Epland:

I mean he did say that though, he said, you know, if we get these high amp power batteries then they do get a little heavy. So at least they know it and they're honest about it too.

MIC1:

Now the freezer's on.

Trent Manning:

It's great.

MIC2:

Sorry.

Trent Manning:

Just working poor Chad death here having him unplug everything in his break room. Yep.

Moe Rateb:

And that water fountain might go off too.

MIC2:

Yep,

Trent Manning:

Might as well just go

MIC2:

well unplug it while you're drinking. I need a drink first.

Jake Teeter:

Oh, man. Is it time clock strike twelve? Yeah. As

Trent Manning:

Nice. How about you, Brian? What, what did you

MIC2:

enjoy?

Bryan Epland:

Mine, mine was the Kohler one. It was, it was really interesting to see and I was talking, I think, to you about it afterwards. You know, that's the direction things are going outside. If it's not, if it's not battery powered, it's fuel injection. And you can't, you know, diagnose a fuel injection system with MAP sensors, crank sensors, all that stuff. It's not something you can just do on the fly. So, being able to see the tool, have, you know, have the, have it all explained, and how you went over the simple, the diagnosis that you can do without the tool, that was really nice to see. And you did a really good job doing that too, Mike.

MIC1:

Yeah, I would love to,

Trent Manning:

Get him back

MIC2:

out in our local area and Have him back.

Trent Manning:

watch that presentation again. Because, yeah, being able to view the live data and stuff. I mean, that's

Bryan Epland:

was really nice. I mean, seeing that, seeing the barometric pressure and all that stuff, it was, I mean, it's all in that little Bluetooth deal. It's really neat. They gave us the app last year when they were here.

MIC1:

We got the

Bryan Epland:

app

MIC2:

last year? That

Bryan Epland:

was Club Car, wasn't it? No, it was Kohler.

Moe Rateb:

Well, it's the Kohler app. I went to Club Car in August.

Bryan Epland:

But it was Club Car that, right, that they were talking about here, wasn't it?

Moe Rateb:

Well, there's a special club car engine for all the Kohlers, or all the club cars, there's a Kohler engine.

Bryan Epland:

Yeah, I thought it was club cars as you were talking about that. But yeah, either way, it's a neat app, and all the live guys can get

Chad Kintzer:

it. Yeah, So what

Trent Manning:

the app

Chad Kintzer:

do? Well, yeah, you need the thing to plug in in order to get it to read the diagnostics. But you can go in there, all the videos. They have all kinds of training videos.

Bryan Epland:

Well that's the other thing, on their YouTube channel, I didn't know that. That they have what's it called? Kohler University on YouTube. And they've got all these videos to help you diagnose all this stuff too, so. It's nice that they're putting that information out there and not just keeping it, you know, you don't have to buy a 50 page service manual or

Moe Rateb:

On the, the app, without it being hooked up to Bluetooth. It has the manual for that engine, like you scroll through to pick your engine, and then it has all kinds of icons, and the manual for it is right there. And it's got like, pin wiring and all that good stuff.

MIC1:

Oh wow. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, that's worth getting the app just for

Jake Teeter:

that Yeah, it is. I got a tribute for you guys. What's the new name of Kohler?

MIC1:

Yeah, it look, I

Trent Manning:

don't know how you would

MIC2:

pronounce it. Relco. Relco? Relco.

Trent Manning:

Reko.

MIC2:

Mm-Hmm.

Moe Rateb:

R-E-H-L-K-O. And isn't it Kohler,

Jake Teeter:

with just They jumbled the words. Yeah, they just scrambled the words up. Yeah, I guess they're trying to get away from the bathroom stuff. I. I

Trent Manning:

thought it was pretty funny. The, the krieger. What do day?

MIC2:

say? Yeah. He said he's got to go work on some toilets

Chad Kintzer:

or something. Go work on some sinks, faucets. It was funny because as he said that, the guy was walking past me. He's like, I hear it all the time. All the time. He just kept walking. He didn't even miss a beat. He just kept going.

Trent Manning:

yeah, I'm sure he gets tired of

Chad Kintzer:

I didn't think he acted like he was tired of it. He's just,

Trent Manning:

over and over

Chad Kintzer:

again. Yeah, I hear it all the time. All the time. Old joke.

MIC1:

It was a dad

Bryan Epland:

Wasn't new to us, though.

MIC1:

year. Every year.

Trent Manning:

He's never missed a beat. Ever. He sells it. Well, you know what

MIC2:

group. He's never missed a beat. Yeah. No. He's

Trent Manning:

I mean, I

MIC2:

he does it, you know what I mean? He sells it away. Well,

Chad Kintzer:

you know, and the nice part is, like I said, now they can just walk right back past the parking lot where we were at this year. What did you guys think about the new place?

Bryan Epland:

It was good. I think that you know, growing pains maybe, just with the microphone cutting in and out, and then maybe having monitors maybe or something closer for the back guys. Because I think that, I didn't sit in the back, I was in the front. I thought maybe it was hard to see from the back, but I did stand back there.

Chad Kintzer:

We did get spoiled over at Market Common. 100%. Because there was like 10 screens in there that you could just set everything up on. And you know, most of the time that's enclosed. I mean, the area we're in now is so open, you can't really do it without the microphone. Right. But I thought it was nice. I liked it. I mean, I like the fact that we're right there at the convention center. I mean, that's, instead of having to drive all the way from Market Common over, you know, plus I think it'll be easier to find. I mean, that one at Market Common is kind of buried back in there a little bit.

Bryan Epland:

I'm kind of going back to what Tim Krieger said there. He was talking about how special it is. I agree with them, you know, what you guys have here at TTAC, and, and, you know, how many people you get to attend all this, it's, it's all inspiring. I mean, I'm happy in our area if we get 40 guys or 30, it's awesome. But, the education that you guys are able to provide is great, and that's why I come down here every year. Yeah, it's awesome. When I first

Chad Kintzer:

started going, we probably had about 40, 60 guys. I mean, it's double. You know, it's, it's good. I mean, I love it. I love it. It's My favorite time of the year right now, you know when everybody comes down and we can all have fun. Oh yeah, you know and you have the classes and stuff and I mean, it's a lot of work But I mean to me it's just it's just fun because you get to do all the work with all your friends and stuff

MIC2:

When the, the sad thing is, how many people

Trent Manning:

from Myrtle Beach are here?

Chad Kintzer:

I Mean if I had a count, I would say there was probably 10, maybe, at the most 15, but I don't think it was that many. I think it was probably about 10.

MIC1:

Yeah That's

Justin King:

How many courses are in there? Oh, it's 100.

Chad Kintzer:

Ridiculous. I mean, yeah, from, from North Carolina down to, say, Pawleys Island, I mean, there's gotta be 100 golf courses. Easy.

Bryan Epland:

You've got education, you just walk out your back door and you're there pretty much in You got people traveling from a long ways away to come do it.

Chad Kintzer:

Yeah, it's crazy. It just goes to show you, man. You can lead a horse to water and you can't make him drink. That's why I set up for the longest time I tried to get guys to come out and have a chapter here in Myrtle Beach. Because, I mean, with the amount of people that we have, we could do exactly what we do here every year. We could do, you know, we could spread it out over the year. Do, you know, how many classes? Five classes? I mean, anybody would come and do a class for that many people. We could do amazing things. And nobody wanted to. Nobody wanted to do it. I couldn't get anybody to come out. Hell, I invited like guys just to go to lunch. Nothing. I was the only one that showed up.

Jake Teeter:

How about lunch? How about the two guys that came from South Jersey and Pennsylvania? He's helping all those guys. No, that's love those guys, man. Yeah,

Trent Manning:

this

MIC1:

But I

Moe Rateb:

but I'll say from last year was my first meeting. Our conference to this year being my second one. What I learned from the conference and the trade show,

MIC1:

about

Moe Rateb:

being able to apply it throughout the year and adding onto it, I mean tenfold on what I've learned.

Chad Kintzer:

It was just inspiring to go there and see all those people gathered together. With a common goal to be better at what our job is, I mean, that's what we're all trying to do is hone our profession and, you know, be as good as we can be. And I mean, when you see that amount of guys come out together at one time, I mean, even though they leave after the awards.

Justin King:

Well, it's you can come down here and not go to a single class, and just the networking, you can go back to your course and you can learn a bunch just from talking to people. So, you know,

Chad Kintzer:

that's why I never, I never, like for the golf, I say it every year. I don't ever put a team in like I'm friends with all a bunch of guys. I mean, I could get a whole bunch of the guys to play with, but I don't, I like to play and play with a different group each year. I mean, you know, you get to meet other people and just have a good time. I mean, that's the best place to really get to know somebody when you're not in like some type of, you know, Working environment or professional environment, you know, you're just out trying to have fun and that's why I enjoy it the golfing side of it anyway i'm terrible, but You're gonna stay a week over there. I'm not disagreeing with you It's nobody

MIC2:

No, but i'm about

Trent Manning:

to doze

MIC2:

off

Trent Manning:

here.

MIC2:

I did now

Trent Manning:

You'll put us right to sleep. Yeah. Mo. How did you find out about us?

Moe Rateb:

So before me in my position, There were, my then assistant superintendent was the mechanic. And he went, because he's been in since high school, playing golf at that golf course. And My superintendent, Todd Baker. he's been like a member for like 40 years or something. And he told me about it. My assistant was like, Yeah, it's a great time. But when I came, I just came by myself. So like the network and everything, I met you. I discovered your podcast like a couple months before. So that got me in. And then The WhatsApp group after that, that, like, blew it open.

MIC1:

The rest is history.

Moe Rateb:

Yeah. What was your

MIC2:

favorite part of the show? You've never

Trent Manning:

you found the whatsapp group. I don't, that's a good question. I mean, I,

MIC2:

your question.

Trent Manning:

yeah, I always, yeah, of course it was a good question. I come

MIC2:

up with it. Ha ha ha. Yeah. Don't hit the table.

Trent Manning:

Yeah. I don't,

SOUND_PAD:

Pshh!

Trent Manning:

I got the sound effect right here. It's D I just got to remember. So yeah, y'all made the impersonation again of that. Still was really good. Still is always really good. Always enjoy that. I was surprised, though, that So many people raised their hand and said they grease the nasal needle bearing. Yeah. On the clutch drum of their chainsaws. And I'm sure some people do that, but I don't think there's a lot of people doing

MIC2:

that. He

Justin King:

called it out right there. I can't believe we have all these lines. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not ashamed to admit that I don't do it. Yeah. No, I've

Trent Manning:

I've never done it. I didn't know it was a thing. I've replaced the needle

MIC2:

bearings. Oh, sure. I didn't

Trent Manning:

I didn't

Moe Rateb:

on it but I put like

MIC1:

he'd

Moe Rateb:

PB Blaster or something on it, cause you know. But that chain guard thing, the chain catch. Where's the needle bearings? I didn't know that. In the clutch. In

Bryan Epland:

the clutch. In the trunk. Take the drum off your needle bearings. He

Chad Kintzer:

didn't even know where it was. I guess he's never greased it. I'm pretty sure I saw it with his hand up today too. No.

Jake Teeter:

I was sleeping in it. No. I think I was in the shower. You said you were sleeping. Oh,

Chad Kintzer:

that's probably when you were in the shower. I was in the shower then. Oh my God. Did you hear, did you hear about that one? No. So I come over late cause I had to go get blood work, you know, pull in, Jake's walking out through. I'm like, where are you going, man? He goes, man, my shower takes 20 minutes to warm up. He goes, I didn't have time to get a shower this morning because I'm going back home, back to the room to get a shower now. He goes, I'm just going to let it run until it gets hot. He goes, I took a cold shower yesterday. I'm not taking one.

MIC1:

Yeah. I don't blame you there. I mean, life's

Trent Manning:

too short to take a cold shower. No.

Moe Rateb:

That's why I like hotels.

MIC1:

hotel.

Moe Rateb:

Another

Trent Manning:

It's all good.

Moe Rateb:

Unlimited hot showers.

Trent Manning:

Mm.

Bryan Epland:

He's got a hotel. Felt good today. Yeah, it's an unlimited hot shower if you let it warm up for 30 minutes. Yeah.

MIC2:

Yeah.

Trent Manning:

Well, we've only been going 30 minutes. We got a

Chad Kintzer:

way to go Well, you know what you ought to do is tell a story about getting locked out of a room when he got here.

MIC1:

Oh yeah. That's a

MIC2:

good story. Yeah.

MIC1:

Yeah. We can share that story.

Bryan Epland:

Yeah so I got an Airbnb or something and me and Chad were hanging out in there. I got all my bags up there and then Jake gets a hold of them and says, Hey, let me ride with you. So we're like, well, shit. Sorry to curse him, but. So he said we gotta go down and get the golf bag. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna leave my phone up here in charge. So I'll text you my room code. So I wrote the code to the door. I text that to Chad. We go down there, come back up and the code won't work. And there's no way to get in. So, we try and try and try and get ourselves locked out any further than the keypad wouldn't work at that point. And so I'm like, alright, well I'll just go down to the lobby, surely she can get a hold of somebody. Because my phone's in the room, I can't get a hold of the owner. And so she says, well it's a private residence, we can't, we don't have their information, we have no way to get a hold of them. So, at this point, these guys leave. Oh, we did it.

Chad Kintzer:

Don't you remember we were up there knocking on the door? Oh,

Bryan Epland:

that's right, you tell that part of the story.

Chad Kintzer:

So we're up there. We're knocking on doors. I said, well, I said, cause the balcony, you know, they're real close together. I said, well, maybe we can just, cause we, his balcony that locked it didn't work to lock the balcony. So they just put this little latch on it. Well, when we went out of the room, we left it unlatched for whatever reason. He's like, well, nobody's going to break in. So. So I'm like, I'm in my mind, I'm thinking, well, maybe I can just step across from one to the other. This is on the 14th

Bryan Epland:

story.

Chad Kintzer:

So I'm like, if it's not real far, I said, we can just step across. So we go back up to the room. I'm like, come on, let's go up. We're just going to knock on doors till somebody opens and we'll let us in. So the room to the right, there were no lights on the room to the left. There was lights on. So I'm standing there knocking on the door. All of a sudden the elevator opens up and these people come walking out, walk right to the door. I go, perfect. I was just knocking on your door. And they're all like, Oh my God, just, just let it go. And I'm like, I'm like, look, do you care if I come in your room? And I said, we were locked out of here. I said, can I come in your room and just go see how far it is from balcony to balcony? And the girl was like, Oh my God, no. And the dude's like, yeah, come on. So I go walking into Rome, go walking back through him. And I, he opens up the balcony. I go, look, I'm like, Oh, I said, there's no way I could do that. Cause it's so the, where the, you know, the wall's just real thin. But they have like a T, you know, so that you can't do exactly what I wanted to do. So I come walking back out and I go, yeah, I said, I don't think I could do it. Well, no, you're not doing it. Absolutely not. And then we leave.

Bryan Epland:

Yeah, they left. And, and so then I ended up having to call Locksmith. Cause that's, I had to get in the room and I didn't have a choice. I couldn't get ahold of nobody. So I'm thinking he can just pick the lock and be in business. Well, he gets up there and he immediately goes, Oh, I'm in business. And I'm like, that can't be good. And he said, yeah, these things are new, and they're, like, he said, I can't get into this. I'm like, okay, well, I guess you have to drill it out. Like, what do you know when I gotta get in there? So, then there's these two lock boxes right below it for, like, the maids or whatever. I said, well, he starts drilling on the main lock, the expensive one. And I said, well, wait a minute, let's drill these, these out first. He's like, yeah, that's probably a good idea. I was like, I'm not the locksmith. Like, this is, you know, you should have thought of that before I did. So, he ends up drilling one open. We get it open. The key doesn't work. I'm like, oh, this is going great. 50 50 shot. We're already wrong. And so he gets the other one. It's a newer version, so it takes him like 10 minutes. He drills all over it. It won't open. Then he gets a pair of a screwdriver and breaks it open. And that key finally let me in. And it charged me like 250, 300, somewhere in there. But I'm gonna try to reimburse for it. We'll see. I mean Well, yeah.

MIC2:

What about the, lock boxes?

Bryan Epland:

They'll have to replace them. I got ahold of the owner once I got in there. And they were like, well why didn't you call us? I said, well I wish I could have, but my phone was in the room, locked up.

Chad Kintzer:

Which was the funny part, because he was going to take it along.

MIC1:

because he goes,

Chad Kintzer:

So we were getting ready to leave, and he goes, well my phone needs charged. He goes, I'm really funny about making sure it's charged all the time. And I go, well, just leave it in here. Just text me the code. And I'm thinking in my mind, I have a terrible memory. If I look at a number and then I go to type it in again, I'll have to look back and forth like seven times. And even though it was only six numbers, I would have had to keep looking back and forth to get it. But he's just like, Oh, I got it. And he texted to me. And I'm thinking, man, that was awfully quick to know those six numbers. And I'm like, okay. So we go down and come back up and it wouldn't work. And the code wouldn't work. And I'm thinking. Are you sure you put, I know man, I looked right at him. I know I put them in right, but we blamed it on Jake. So it don't matter if you wouldn't arrive. I don't know how he thought he was going to fit into mini Cooper anyway. The clubs would barely fit in the back.

Bryan Epland:

Yeah. So like after the locksmith and all that stuff, they, I get ahold of people finally, and they, they, so all they did was they reset the code. They took the old one out and put the new one in and it started working. And so we have no idea what happened. I, I don't know. And yeah, the lock boxes, they just said they'll have to replace them. I mean, it's not a big deal, but. But, I mean, that was the cheap alternative compared to that, I don't know, 400 touchpad lock thing they have. I don't know, but

Chad Kintzer:

I tell you

Bryan Epland:

what,

Chad Kintzer:

he took

Bryan Epland:

it

Chad Kintzer:

way better than I would have. I was dying laughing, but it, because I wasn't in that situation. Probably if I'd have been in that situation. I don't think I would have handled

Bryan Epland:

it as well as he did. I can't wait to tell Jordan Roth here just cause we had problems with my rental car down in Utah. So he had to rent it and he said, I tried to get him to come down here and he said, I'm not letting you rent a car. You, you, you're bad luck. So, I guess I'm

MIC1:

bad. Yeah, it continues.

Chad Kintzer:

was pretty funny.

Bryan Epland:

It was. You took it like a champ

Chad Kintzer:

though, man. Well, what was I gonna do? Get mad? Like, there was nothing to be mad about. I mean, I'm sure there was. You were locked out of your room. Your phone was in there. Jake made us a freaking video. Yeah, it's always my fault. I had my wallet. I was okay. I could

Bryan Epland:

have went and gotten, like, dinner. You know, I'd have been alright. Yeah. Yeah, of all things to have, I had my wallet, not the thing I needed to get in the room.

Chad Kintzer:

That was too much.

Bryan Epland:

It was, it was a good time. So, basically, what we're saying, Jake, is you owe me 300 bucks.

MIC1:

laughter take cash check or charge?

Jake Teeter:

You take Bitcoin, I'll hook you up. Oh, sure, yeah.

Trent Manning:

Bitcoin.

Jake Teeter:

Jake

Moe Rateb:

is our honorary that guy on the crew.

Trent Manning:

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MIC2:

was a little

Chad Kintzer:

bigger, I think, this year than last year.

MIC2:

Yeah, okay. I think there were a few more

Chad Kintzer:

vendors. How about this?

Trent Manning:

I'm waiting.

MIC1:

Horry

Chad Kintzer:

Georgetown. Yeah. Won the turf bowl again.

MIC2:

Oh.

Chad Kintzer:

Five years straight.

Trent Manning:

think it's rigged.

Chad Kintzer:

Don't think so. Those guys are pretty smart.

Trent Manning:

Well, I mean, I'm

MIC2:

saying they're not Since Charles

Chad Kintzer:

Granger's been there. I think it's, what'd they say, 10 years or 11 years? He's won 10 of the 9 years they've won the turf bowl.

Trent Manning:

and you don't think it's rigged.

Jake Teeter:

It's in Burrell Beach. I'm not thinking we get an investigation.

Trent Manning:

Yeah. Well, I don't know, you know,

Jake Teeter:

question. You don't

Chad Kintzer:

know what

Moe Rateb:

the turf bowl is? I don't know what the

Jake Teeter:

turf bowl

Moe Rateb:

is. Quiz bowl. So all the colleges,

Chad Kintzer:

they

MIC1:

have

Chad Kintzer:

like, competition for all the colleges. Like you saw NC State, Clemson. That's where all the kids are today. Yeah, they all have a competition and they ask them questions. And they have to answer the questions, and whoever answers the most correctly or whatever, they win the Turf Bowl. So what happens is, they have one at our level, so whoever wins this one gets to go to national, where they do at the national show. And that's where all the schools are that one. Cool. Yeah, so they've won five years in a row. Well, I guess they said they tied last year, but that's a win in my book. It's like the debate team of Yeah, I think there's like five or six of them on the team.

Jake Teeter:

I've never heard of it before.

Chad Kintzer:

Oh yeah, they do it every year.

Jake Teeter:

Wow, I wonder where I was. Sleeping? Whose belly was that? Drinking. Is it yours? Yeah,

MIC2:

it was

Chad Kintzer:

mine. As soon as I heard it, I knew.

Trent Manning:

Yeah. Had to be.

Chad Kintzer:

Did that come up? I hope that came on the mic.

MIC1:

It probably

Chad Kintzer:

It was pretty loud, it was like, I don't

Jake Teeter:

know. I don't think that was his belly.

Trent Manning:

Ha, ha, ha,

Chad Kintzer:

Bathroom's right there. Right in front of the wall.

Trent Manning:

So, yeah.

Chad Kintzer:

I thought the trade show was a little bigger. Last year, I don't remember them going all the way to the wall. Like, I thought they were. at least one row over from the wall. There was some empty space. On either side, I think it was. And, and last

MIC1:

year,

Chad Kintzer:

the, all of the dealers had

MIC1:

a big,

Chad Kintzer:

a large booth whereas Jacobson and Toro just have smaller booths this year. John Deere still has a pretty big one, but the other two only have a smaller booth. So small that Mike couldn't bring his van in.

Trent Manning:

Is

Chad Kintzer:

that really

Trent Manning:

why he didn't bring

MIC2:

it? No,

Chad Kintzer:

he has it here. He just didn't park it in there. I think he has it here anyway. That's what he said. I

Bryan Epland:

know he said it's in my driving car, but maybe that was him joking. No, he might have the van he might have drove the

Chad Kintzer:

car But he couldn't he if he did it was because he couldn't put the van in there because the booth wasn't as big Because I said to him we were joking around when I was standing there Jake and I were standing there talking to him and I said, well, you should make a little golf

MIC1:

cart

Chad Kintzer:

Like a mini like he has a mini grinder. You can put the mini grinders into mini golf. Now, that would be

Bryan Epland:

really cool Right.

MIC2:

Yeah I would like that.

Chad Kintzer:

That would

MIC1:

be neat.

MIC2:

Come on, they just said they're hiring for the market. I mean,

Trent Manning:

a great idea.

Moe Rateb:

I'm full of them, buddy.

Trent Manning:

Yeah.

Moe Rateb:

Okay, well.

Trent Manning:

Yeah. Mike

MIC1:

and

Moe Rateb:

and Chad traveling the country. Oh

Chad Kintzer:

boy. In Grindzilla. Mini Grindzilla. I'll drive Mini Grindzilla. Mark's, Mark's an R. M. P. I look like, I look like McGillicuddy.

Bryan Epland:

sales tank and what's going on? I look like McGillicuddy

Chad Kintzer:

driving the golf cart.

MIC2:

Yeah. Yeah,

Trent Manning:

did y'all see any new products on trade

MIC2:

They

Moe Rateb:

have a firefly there. Yeah, the Firefly was nice.

Trent Manning:

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about the Firefly. All right. Good

Chad Kintzer:

talk. I didn't, see

Bryan Epland:

it, so.

Chad Kintzer:

Well, I didn't really talk to him, I just saw it was sitting there. I mean, I've seen videos of it and stuff. The thing looks amazing. I don't know what the Firefly is. Autonomous mower. But the big one.

Trent Manning:

you know, it's not like a little

MIC1:

Husqvarna.

Chad Kintzer:

even notice what it was. Yeah, you know me,

Bryan Epland:

if it's not green, I ain't looking at it.

Chad Kintzer:

Well, it's just sitting there, it's like, it's, it's kinda, so what I saw was, it's all the way, if you walk in the front door where we walk in, it's in the back left corner. Yeah, I didn't make it

Bryan Epland:

back there.

Chad Kintzer:

Yeah, it's all the way in the back. There was a bunch of people around it when I walked past there. I mean, I didn't stop and talk to them, like I said, I've seen videos and stuff online, but I mean, it's, it's pretty cool.

Moe Rateb:

It looked pretty nimble and quick

Chad Kintzer:

in the video that they had. Yeah. Well, you know, and honestly, seeing it in person, like I haven't ever seen it in person, it looked a lot smaller than what it looks like on the videos. Like, it looks pretty big on the videos. And seeing it in

Moe Rateb:

person, it looked fairly small. But it's like a totally different beast than the Cress or the Husqvarna or some of the other ones that they've had out there. The little vacuum cleaner looking mowers.

MIC1:

I thought

Trent Manning:

the reels were interesting.

MIC2:

Yeah, I didn't even their adjustments. So

Trent Manning:

it's, it's a, a fixed bed knife, but you know, kind of like a QA seven or some.

MIC2:

I don't,

Trent Manning:

Toro have any fixed bed knives now?

MIC2:

Not that I'm aware of. I've never seen one. Yeah. Not that I know of.

Trent Manning:

I want to say back in the day they had something that

MIC2:

was fixed. I don't remember what it was. Well, yeah, I'm not sure. Sorry.

Trent Manning:

But anyway,

MIC2:

yeah,

Trent Manning:

so fixed bed knife. So the reel adjusts to the bed knife and

MIC2:

it was

Trent Manning:

a click system.

MIC2:

The guy said

Trent Manning:

65 tenths.

MIC2:

Per click, you know Toro's

Trent Manning:

Seven tenths or whatever. So

MIC2:

john deere's 5

Trent Manning:

tenths.

MIC2:

So they wanted a

Trent Manning:

I guess

MIC2:

I don't know

Chad Kintzer:

surprisingly well worth it. Fixed bed knife. I wonder why they did that.

Trent Manning:

I don't

MIC2:

Was it a 7 inch cutting unit? Yeah. Well, i'd say

Trent Manning:

that i'm pretty

MIC2:

I mean, that's what John Deere is, what the rear one is. When the

Trent Manning:

guy did say that

MIC2:

So

Trent Manning:

it had a JRM reel and a JRM bed knife,

MIC2:

but it's Toro Dimensions. So he could you could put

Trent Manning:

a Toro in

MIC2:

it if you wanted to, Yeah,

Bryan Epland:

a Toro would be

Trent Manning:

bed knives.

Bryan Epland:

Well, that's kind of nice, then you have, you can, you got a little bit of versatility to them. If you're an all Toro or something, then you could just transfer parts or

MIC1:

Yeah, and

Trent Manning:

then, yeah, I don't know, it's

MIC2:

it's definitely a little different

Trent Manning:

because

MIC2:

it's more

Trent Manning:

a QA7 because the front roller

MIC2:

is

Trent Manning:

adjustable, you know, with, you know,

MIC2:

positions. But

Trent Manning:

the height of cuts adjusted from the rear roller. Hmm. So, yeah, I don't know. A little, little different Yeah.

MIC2:

know, like

Trent Manning:

a, a combo between a Toro

Bryan Epland:

and a Deere. One question that I've kind of had about these autonomous mowers is, you know, say you do come across like a ball marker or something, especially a real mower, I mean, is, you know, is that just something that's going to get hit? And I guess it'd be no different than, you know, the operator hitting something, but, you know. The operator might be able to see that on the next pass that, you know, is that, I've, I've not been around it so I guess I'm asking a question, but is that something that that mower can see or, or sense or?

Moe Rateb:

Toro came out with a video on one of the emails for golf course industry. And they were talking about their next iteration of the Triplex having cameras and lasers or some kind of technology that would have a visual on stuff like that. Yeah, so it's on their mind at least.

Bryan Epland:

That's good to hear.

MIC1:

Yeah, it's like, is it

Trent Manning:

LIDAR

MIC2:

That does that probably. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. Where

Trent Manning:

like my 3D printer has got

MIC2:

that lidar, so if

Trent Manning:

you know something happens with the print,

MIC2:

it'll stop itself. Oh yeah. Yeah. It has be something like that. The Same

Trent Manning:

technology, I guess.

Moe Rateb:

sprinkler heads.

Trent Manning:

Yeah. Can it tell

MIC2:

sprinkler heads up I hope so. right over it. Oh boy. That could be a mess. Yeah.

Trent Manning:

be a mess.

Moe Rateb:

But the one thing I did notice, there was no contact. And it was super easy to spin the reel

Trent Manning:

Yeah, because electric motor

Moe Rateb:

you

Trent Manning:

know, no hydraulic

Moe Rateb:

pressure because we use the 25 50 john dears and they're pretty easy, but this one was just I don't know if it was because it's brand new, but it was It felt nice to spin it Until you get your finger

MIC2:

and I did it I asked the guy

Trent Manning:

and they

MIC2:

said a

Trent Manning:

light contact,

MIC2:

but I guess,

Trent Manning:

you know, if it's based

MIC2:

on a Toro cut maybe they didn't adjust it.

Bryan Epland:

Well, for the show they probably don't have them. I mean, I would think they wouldn't have it adjusted to cut paper at the show.

Moe Rateb:

We'll have to go back tomorrow with our little slips. Yeah. Yeah. Go down to the T TAC booth, there's plenty of them. That's a real test right

MIC2:

there. Well,

Trent Manning:

I did ask him if it would fit on a lift

MIC2:

because it looks really wide,

Trent Manning:

but he said it would.

MIC2:

So how does that work? I wonder. How do you get it on the lift?

Trent Manning:

That I don't

MIC2:

I think there's a remote for it.

Trent Manning:

Yeah, I don't know

MIC2:

if it's a remote or if

Trent Manning:

like stand on the

MIC2:

back. It has a

Moe Rateb:

Playstation controller. Yeah, okay. Interesting. No wait, that was another one. My bad, sorry. But it's either way.

MIC1:

Yeah,

Trent Manning:

I don't know that I got that. Nope. No,

MIC2:

Darn it.

Trent Manning:

not that one.

MIC2:

That

Trent Manning:

I have to get that sound

MIC2:

effect

Trent Manning:

and make sure I, I get it on

MIC2:

here for 2025 There you go. New sound

Trent Manning:

effect. It'll, it'll debut one year from today.

Moe Rateb:

But yeah, I did see a plate motion controller for one of them. Where you had to move it from fairway to fairway or rough to rough between holes.

Trent Manning:

I don't that was probably this one, wasn't it?

Moe Rateb:

Cause no, it was I can't remember the name, but it was like a purple blue one that he said site one is going to be the distributor.

Trent Manning:

the distributor

Justin King:

You guys see that one? I don't even know what it was. I didn't get a chance to look at it closely, but the smaller one that was on tracks. What was that?

Moe Rateb:

The

Justin King:

rhino? Yeah.

Moe Rateb:

Oh, it was a rough mower.

Justin King:

Okay. That's what I figured, but people were around it and I wasn't. But it wasn't autonomous,

Moe Rateb:

it was remote controlled. Yeah, it was remote

Bryan Epland:

controlled, but that looked pretty cool. Yeah, because Mike Rollins was saying that I think,

MIC1:

uh,

Bryan Epland:

Femke at Big Cedar has one or something at the new course they've got there. What's the benefits of having? Well, because if you got real steep slopes, it's got the tracks to be able to go up and down it. Yeah, what's the

MIC2:

difference if you have an operator or not? Well, if, safer. Yeah. Yeah, if it flips over and there's not an operator on it, it

Trent Manning:

might be safer. Just a

MIC2:

Well, no, I'm just saying though,

Chad Kintzer:

I don't, I, I understand that. It might have an operator on it and they're like, hey, watch this. I don't know what the benefit would be of it, like, I mean, I would wait. Well, yeah, I mean. Other than that, other

MIC1:

they're saying,

Chad Kintzer:

you know. But I mean, that would be the only

MIC1:

put anybody

Chad Kintzer:

That would be the only application that you would think it would be useful with a remote. Well, right, that's, but I

Bryan Epland:

think that's what it is. Or maybe even around ponds and stuff, you know. all. I guess. This is the guy that, you know, one of the cross balconies on the 14th story says safety. Yeah, right,

MIC2:

Yeah.

Bryan Epland:

All about

Chad Kintzer:

safety. You know. Safety. That's right. Kayla and I were talking about that today. About safety and safety glasses. We were saying how I was telling her, she was telling me some stories and I was telling her some stories and I was like, I was like, yeah. I said, I've done a few stupid things and I, I used to work in a garage and I never wore safety glasses. I was just, you know, you know how you're, when you're young, you're just dumb. And we used to do exhaust. I know, I'm still young.

Trent Manning:

I

Chad Kintzer:

still wearing,

Trent Manning:

safety glasses like I should.

Chad Kintzer:

I just squint my eyes a little bit. I can see better that way. Safety squid. Yeah. So, I was cutting the exhaust off of this car and on the muffler clamp, you cut on either side of it, hit it with a hammer, and you know, it would break it.

MIC1:

Right off and

Chad Kintzer:

You can cut the pipe out or whatever. So I'm, it's dark, it's nighttime and I'm in there blowing, I don't have any safety glasses or nothing on. And I hit the air to, you know, blow the lava out. And I, all I see is this frigging molten lava coming right at my face. And luckily, you know, you have quick reactions when stuff's coming to your eye. And I closed my eye real quick and it landed. Literally across the opening in my eye with my eye closed I had a burn on the top and the bottom that burned my eyelashes and everything off and I said From that day forward I wear safety glasses no matter what I'm so big on safety glasses now I'm like if I guys come in the shop and help and they're doing something blowing or grinding or anything I'm like, hey, man, get your safety glasses on Oh,

Bryan Epland:

I know

Chad Kintzer:

and that was my that's Kayla said that was your one warning I said it was, and I took it I said, ever since then I said, I never did it again without safety glasses. I said, that was really close, really close. There was another one I told her too, but I don't remember that one. We're

MIC1:

We're dying to know I don't remember.

Trent Manning:

Yeah

Chad Kintzer:

I'm old. I remember that one. Oh, I know what it was.'cause we started talking about the chainsaws'cause they were doing the steel thing and she was saying that her guys at her shop, there was an old guy that doesn't wear Chad. They finally talked him into wearing them. I said, well, one of my good friends, he has a tree business. And I said, I'd always help him and stuff, you know, you know, we always wore gloves and, you know, hard hat and safety glasses, but we never wore chaps or anything, you know, and he always climbed the trees and stuff. And I'm down there cutting a log or something up and I was undercutting it and it started to pinch the saw and I pulled it out real quick. And what I did, it came down and hit, at that time I wore blue jeans. Luckily, it hit my blue jeans, tore three holes in my blue jeans, but never got my

MIC1:

leg

Chad Kintzer:

I mean, it was so close. Yeah. Wow. They're

Bryan Epland:

worth it, for sure.

Chad Kintzer:

What's that? Blue jeans? Yeah, blue jeans, yeah. I mean, they were in style then. I washed them and the holes kept getting bigger.

MIC1:

I should

Chad Kintzer:

have kept them and sold them. People make good money for that. I could have got a couple hundred bucks for them now, at least.

MIC1:

for

Chad Kintzer:

with butts all worn out from sitting on them all the time.

Trent Manning:

What else? Oh,

Moe Rateb:

Look at the OSHA things that she was talking about. Their what was it, their incident reports. Oh yeah, I was actually

Bryan Epland:

curious about that. How do you guys put those online? You know,

Chad Kintzer:

she's really smart. Oh yeah, yeah. She is, just.

Bryan Epland:

So, for people that weren't there since we're doing a podcast. During her class she was talking about, who's she? Caleb, Caleb, Caleb. Sorry. She was talking about how they were there. Yeah. Yeah. She's doing a podcast. Yeah. You know, you know, so she was, she was for her guys she goes on the OSHA website and gets the incidences that kind of are related to what they do at the golf course. And she puts one in the break room tables. I think is what she said periodically. Yeah. Which is, I think is an eye opener.

Chad Kintzer:

That's kind of cool. So that's the stuff that she said. So that's the stuff that she tells them. She thinks they're not just telling them. For just to be a jerk so that they can see that that stuff really does happen.

MIC2:

Well

MIC1:

thought

Trent Manning:

Mark was good showing the hamburger meat,

MIC2:

you

Trent Manning:

know, and really driving it home. Like, if you get a chainsaw cut, this is what it's going to

MIC2:

look like. Yeah, he's really good. Yeah, there's

Trent Manning:

there's not any sewing this back

MIC2:

together Cause yeah, there's nothing

Trent Manning:

Because yeah, there's nothing there to sew together

MIC2:

not a clean

Trent Manning:

out. Yeah These microphones are really sensitive. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

MIC2:

How's my belly? It was growling.

Moe Rateb:

Giggling. Hour of giggling. You awake over there,

Jake Teeter:

buddy? barely Oh, I'm barely hanging on. What was your favorite part of the trade show, Jake? The hose reel. The hose cart.

Chad Kintzer:

The 1,

Jake Teeter:

700 hose cart? 1, 700 hose cart. 1, 700 hose cart. 1, 700 hose cart. Bulletproof.

Trent Manning:

Bulletproof. Bulletproof.

Chad Kintzer:

The hose or the cart? The whole assembly. Oh, he was so excited about that thing. He's like, look at that, man. Justin's like, I just made one, man. Yeah,

MIC2:

I made one

Trent Manning:

I bought the hose reel and I bought a trailer from Northern for 300

MIC2:

That's what we got. And a piece of plywood.

Trent Manning:

I didn't even do plywood. I just, Hose reel straight to the trailer

Jake Teeter:

Fits straight on the frame?

Trent Manning:

Mm hmm.

Jake Teeter:

Okay. Well, when I started, all the wires were on plywood, which is all rotten now after 14 years. And the last one we did, we did with decking material that What do you call that?

Trent Manning:

I

Jake Teeter:

like treks Yeah treks. We used treks to put down the deck and then bolted it in. Is that working pretty good? Yeah, it works good. and I figured out that the frames break on the reels.

MIC2:

Mm hmm.

Jake Teeter:

Because there's no support for them. So I mounted a, a shelf bracket

MIC1:

shell bracket to

Jake Teeter:

to the deck and to the frame. And so no more flex, no more breaking the frames. Works great.

MIC2:

Nice.

Trent Manning:

Yeah, the northern trailers I got,

MIC2:

an

Trent Manning:

cut the axle in half and extended

MIC2:

it

Trent Manning:

so

MIC2:

I can

Trent Manning:

put golf cart tires

MIC2:

on it. Huh. And other wider tires, Yeah, that's what this

Trent Manning:

come with those super

Jake Teeter:

skinny ones. Yeah, that's what this has. Those big wide tires. Yeah, yeah. I like that set up. But it had, where you hook the hose up, instead of being inside the frame of the reel, it actually has a curved section that comes out right to the edge so you can just screw your hose on and start wrapping it instead of having to feed it inside and hook it with the hull. Stupid hook that always comes undone.

Trent Manning:

I saw it in the front

MIC2:

Right

Chad Kintzer:

inside the front door it was.

Jake Teeter:

Yeah, they ask. H& H. H& H.

Trent Manning:

H. Yeah,

MIC1:

H

Jake Teeter:

Yeah, H& H I think.

Trent Manning:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw

Jake Teeter:

it. It says like right when you walk in the door. Yeah, right inside the front door. Fire engine red. Yeah. What do you guys use for hoses on your hose carts?

MIC2:

I don't,

Trent Manning:

I don't know

MIC2:

I mean we keep

Trent Manning:

buying hoses and they keep,

MIC2:

they don't time at all. Don't matter what you get.

Jake Teeter:

Red Underhill

MIC1:

is

Jake Teeter:

has lasted the best so far, but it's heavy. It's heavy, yeah. It's heavy, heavy, heavy. But it turns out, all of them, the clear one, the green, the blue, have a lifetime warranty.

Trent Manning:

Really?

Jake Teeter:

I didn't know, we'd already thrown a couple of them away before. Yeah.

MIC2:

huh, I didn't know that.

Trent Manning:

Yeah,

MIC2:

that's good to know because yeah, I don't know how many we've thrown away. Thousands. Yeah, Definitely thousands of dollars worth. Oh yeah. Houses, because that stuff's

Trent Manning:

take long. Most things are, yeah, expensive. Yeah, I'll check into that.

MIC2:

Well, you

Trent Manning:

heard it here first,

MIC2:

people.

Trent Manning:

Lifetime warranty on, on,

MIC2:

Well, it was from Jake, so.

Trent Manning:

hoses.

Chad Kintzer:

He pulls the flags out as he's driving across. Let me fact check.

Trent Manning:

Yeah, that's true.

Chad Kintzer:

We better not just hold that to fact. Come on now. You may

Justin King:

have heard it first.

Chad Kintzer:

Well, you've definitely heard it first. You're never going to hear it

Moe Rateb:

again.

MIC2:

You've definitely heard

Moe Rateb:

it. Guaranteed consumer tips

Chad Kintzer:

from Jake. Thanks. So what what do you think about the tournament? The Eric Duncanson Memorial Tournament. You drove all the way from Georgia, all the way

Trent Manning:

Oh, yeah, that was awesome. I mean, it was a lot of fun. I definitely like coming to

MIC2:

support

Trent Manning:

TTAC and

MIC2:

Benevolence

Trent Manning:

Fund. I mean, it's great.

MIC2:

And, I mean,

Trent Manning:

a bummer that

MIC2:

Right, you know the weather and

Trent Manning:

all that, the

MIC2:

storms come

Trent Manning:

through and I heard a lot of people couldn't make it because of that, which I totally understand.

MIC2:

So

Trent Manning:

hopefully next year have even better turnout.

MIC2:

Yeah, was that good old jake's golf course? Yes, it was which was in

Jake Teeter:

fantastic shape

Trent Manning:

and it's

Jake Teeter:

Justin's golf course next year. Yep. Yeah, not official yet, but we're working on it

Chad Kintzer:

So here we go jake light again

MIC2:

Hmm

Chad Kintzer:

Yeah, I thought the golf course was great, I know it was just funny cuz he's like it's like oh man Everybody's gonna come up here and make fun of my crappy golf course. I'm like, I'm like who would do that? I said nobody's gonna make fun of your course. First of all, it's not even crappy. I said it's great I said I thought it was an awesome shape

Trent Manning:

Yeah. The only thing we made fun of was the steak sandwich that Jack recommended.

MIC2:

yeah, that was pretty bad.

Chad Kintzer:

That was very bad Oh, the night before. Yeah. At the restaurant. Yeah. Everybody changed their mind and got the steak sandwich because he recommended it. I had something picked out. Yeah, we all did.

Jake Teeter:

I know you guys asked me and I said, I don't know, just, everything's good. Yeah. you said everything was good. And then I went to the steak sandwich and everybody started ordering steak sandwich. I'm like, oh, shit.

MIC2:

Yep,

Trent Manning:

It was not good

Chad Kintzer:

not good. So, it was made with real steak. And they sliced it, looked like with a knife, like maybe quarter inch strips, yeah? And it was the toughest. Oh, it was bad. Freaking gristliest. The gristliest. If you would bite into it, the whole piece of steak would come out of the bun. The whole, like, four inches long. It was so bad. It was terrible. I think it was liquid.

Trent Manning:

was microwave. Yeah and I think the bun was three times

MIC2:

bigger than the stand. Yeah, it was, it was

Trent Manning:

And it wasn't like it was a big

MIC2:

bond. It was bad. So we

Chad Kintzer:

know, we should have known when Jake recommended it, had we known. Old Mr. Credibility himself. Yeah. Old Mr. Lifetime Hoses

MIC2:

himself.

Bryan Epland:

It's

Chad Kintzer:

on the podcast now, you can't erase it.

Jake Teeter:

Somebody call Uber, I gotta get out of here. You guys can have fun, make some money.

Chad Kintzer:

Oh man, well that was the best part of the tournament. We were just having, me, it was me, Justin, Jake, and Lee Carmichael. And oh my god, we were just cutting up the whole entire time. It was so much fun. It was a blast.

MIC2:

Yeah, I'm gonna

Trent Manning:

to get golf clubs and

Chad Kintzer:

Oh, it's just fun.

Trent Manning:

I can do it one time.

Chad Kintzer:

It's just fun cutting out, man. It's just, I just love just going and just, like, I'm not good. So it's, to me, it's funny when I talk smack to somebody else when they hit a bad shot because 9 chance out of 10, mine's gonna be worse, so. You, you can borrow mine if you need some clothes. Okay. You're not left handed, probably.

Trent Manning:

I don't, I mean,

MIC2:

I mean. If you've never golfed, I guess either way. Yeah.

Trent Manning:

It, it really don't matter matter. I

MIC2:

think you can always borrow mine, but

Chad Kintzer:

add an extra set of down. I did too. Did Well, you get a, oh, there you go. When it's at his tournament, you can just come out

Jake Teeter:

and you get Daniel Garing ability on number two. And I said, you, you and Laura drove up in the beverage cart and I said, you watch somebody hit this image right here and damn if I didn't, he hit it right where he said

Chad Kintzer:

he was going to.

Justin King:

Just about 10 yard shorter.

MIC1:

Yeah.

Justin King:

You can make it past the red tees. It was so fun. Yeah, that was funny. We had so much fun that day, Chad and his. This is Myrtle Beach Dinosaur Putt Putt Putter. He was making fun of

Chad Kintzer:

my putter. It's a two ball putter. I don't know what he was making fun of. He just didn't like it had a regular, it didn't have one of the fat grips on it. It just has a regular little grip on it. It's almost the same as his putter. I don't know what he was talking about. It's just funny you make fun of you. It is funny.

Trent Manning:

I mean, I like when guys talk about their putters, you know, and compare their

MIC2:

putters with

Bryan Epland:

each other. Yeah,

Trent Manning:

Really

MIC2:

good

Bryan Epland:

Oh

Chad Kintzer:

no, I got a small putter. Trust me. Listen, can I tell you the funniest thing? So before we started playing, Justin had never played golf before. And he's going, we're, you were there when we're at his shop. Remember, we're still walking around. He goes, man, he goes, I'm so excited to play golf. I've been watching YouTube videos for, for like weeks now. And I'm like, you've been watching videos? Yeah, man. And I was going to the range and we get out there. I'll tell you what, he was hitting a crap out of the ball. I was like, Holy crap. Yeah. He was

MIC1:

to start watching some

Chad Kintzer:

yeah, no lie. Cause he was hitting the ball 10 times better than I was. Yeah. He was smoking them. I mean he was hitting them out there really far. He was keeping up with Lee and Lee's like a four handicap or something. He's, Lee's really good. But clarify, just my drives. Right. Well, everything else. That's true. He must only watch dry videos. Yeah, I didn't watch any iron videos. Well how about Lee eagled the last hole himself? Yeah. And he was this far away from the longest drop. Yeah. Crazy, I mean, good boy. Yeah, he's funny. He was at the, he was at the J. R. M. night. He's always so funny. Him and his buddies, there's one guy, Rooster. That's what they call him out there. Every time they see me, it's always, they always laugh at each other. They're funny guys, good guys.

MIC2:

I like, it's one of the great things about the industry. It's, you know, I mean, we have fun, you know? And how long have we known each other? I mean, not that long. Like, 30 years, maybe. I mean, like, we're in the Army together or something, you know, for four years or something, you know. But, yeah, just everybody you meet, you feel like you've known for a long time. Yeah, without a doubt. So, it's something special. I

Bryan Epland:

was talking to Andrew today from Old Eleanor. And, him and I were joking back and forth. I mean, we met briefly in Phoenix, but we were just sitting next to each other joking back and forth. You know, it's funny, we're kept in the same cloth, even though we come from a lot of different backgrounds. It's good. You can't crack a joke or two as long as they're willing to listen.

MIC1:

Yeah, I

Trent Manning:

think, and I mean,

MIC2:

there's always a few, I guess, but for the most part. As long as it doesn't involve yum yum sauce, it's okay. yeah, yeah. yeah. I mean, you know, you cross the line sometimes when you start talking about yum yum sauce and the guy's telling a story.

Trent Manning:

What do you expect?

Justin King:

His face was the best. He was like,

Chad Kintzer:

You interrupted my conversation for effing yum yum sauce?

MIC1:

He stared me

Chad Kintzer:

down for like 30 seconds and I was like, I think the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. What hairs? If I had hairs.

MIC1:

good point.

Chad Kintzer:

The hairs that should be there were standing up.

Justin King:

But even that, you know. You can't stay mad at Chad for too long.

Chad Kintzer:

He's fat and stupid. You just gotta get over it. Oh man.

Bryan Epland:

He's all about self positivity.

Trent Manning:

Yes, yeah, yep.

Chad Kintzer:

That's like, that's like, Steve, my boss, always yells at me. Cause I'm always my worst critic forever. And I'm sure we all are. But during the tournament, we had the PGA tournament here. And it was like a dream to have it. You know what I mean? To work at a golf course that hosted a tournament. And one of the team owners was out there and blew a hydraulic hose. And I was just like, I mean, we tore it apart, got it repaired, got it back going again. But I came back into the shop, man. I closed the door. I'm freaking, I'm in there. I'm half ball and it's just like, I'm like, Oh my God, I'm like, how could I go and let something so stupid happen? For something I mean it was and you could see the hose was warm like rusted I'm like, how could I miss that? you know, I'm going over this stuff for the three months, you know with a fine tooth comb and I missed this and you know, Tim Krieger and all of them were here and you know, I mean I get mad at myself, but I get over it You know what? I mean? It's not like I'm gonna quit my job or whatever It's just I'm very disappointed in myself at the time, you know, and they're all like, oh, it's alright, man Krieger told the story about when he had a leak course or whatever. And, you know, Steve, my boss pulled me aside. He's like, Hey man, he's like, you just got to let it go. He goes, you got to stop being so hard on yourself. And I'm like, I'm like, I said, I'm fine, Steve. I said, it's just, I'm disappointed in what happened. You know, I said, you know, I've been looking forward to this for how long, you know, and then something like that happens, which is like, for me, it's a cardinal sin, you know? And it's, he's like, Oh, he's like, man, this place looks as good as it does because of you. And he said, it's, you know, just let it go. I'm like, I'm good. I'm fine. You know, and Hour later, I was fine. After I just got stuck pouting and

Bryan Epland:

whining. I mean, you know, self criticism is always the harshest form of criticism. You know, it's, we're all hard on ourselves. So, that's probably why we're in our positions. I guess. Maybe why, why we accelerate. The

Chad Kintzer:

thing mine has to do for my dad yelling at me all the time. I figured if I yelled at myself and then maybe he wouldn't yell at me so much.

MIC1:

Doesn't really work

Chad Kintzer:

that way though. Does it? No, no.

Trent Manning:

Yeah

Chad Kintzer:

I like those memes, the stuff you see on Facebook, you know, with the kids. You can tell these days they never had to hold their flashlight for their dad. yeah, yeah. That's the truth.

MIC2:

Woo! Yeah.

Trent Manning:

I'll never

MIC2:

forget those days. Oh

Chad Kintzer:

Mike, you could never have that on the podcast. It would be just one long beep. My dad yelling at me with the flashlight. Over! And I'm not even going to say it.

MIC1:

it.

MIC2:

Hold it

Trent Manning:

where I can

MIC2:

see, boy, not where you can see.

Trent Manning:

That's what I heard. I don't know how

Chad Kintzer:

Well, you know, I think my problem was I would never pay attention. I'd stand there and hold the light. Oh wow, look at that. And the next thing you know, the light's over here. I remember one time we were driving down the road and my dad, we were backing out of something and he turned around like this to back up and my, one of my friends was in the car with us and he leaned like this to look in the middle and my dad reached back and smacked him in the back of the head and I go, you got smacked and it wasn't me this time.

Bryan Epland:

I figured the next thing you were going to say was your dad turned around and smacked you too. So I probably, he probably did. He probably blocked that one out.

Chad Kintzer:

For laughing at him. Days. We're ready

Trent Manning:

to wrap it up?

Chad Kintzer:

What time is it? I mean we could just go until tomorrow morning and pull in all night. Oh yeah, why not?

Trent Manning:

no. We only got, yeah, 28 minutes, but.

MIC2:

Yeah, I'm ready to go. Yeah, we're good.

Trent Manning:

Yep, I'm good.

MIC2:

Thanks for doing this buddy. no, thank you, Chad, Thanks for,

Trent Manning:

yeah, having us

MIC2:

Don't forget to plug for everybody else for,

Trent Manning:

for being here, and. Yeah,

MIC2:

Yeah, thanks for the invite.

MIC1:

invite.

Trent Manning:

Yeah, no, it's

MIC2:

It's been fun.

Trent Manning:

I mean, it's always

MIC2:

fun,

Moe Rateb:

I wonder how this is going to turn out. I Don't you know, it's

MIC2:

the

Trent Manning:

art of editing.

MIC2:

amazing what you can do Oh man. podcast

Trent Manning:

Well, we'll see what the one microphone does and

MIC2:

And me

Trent Manning:

hitting mute so we don't get Mike bleed as much

Chad Kintzer:

Oh, is that what that button's for?

Trent Manning:

yeah, yeah. That's why

MIC2:

I hit that mutes this mic. Oh, okay.

Trent Manning:

And that's the biggest problem about recording in a room like this is my bleed. And you basically have to manually go through and scrub each section.

MIC2:

So

Trent Manning:

it takes forever to edit one

MIC2:

of these.

Chad Kintzer:

You think there would be something like a program you could just go in and it would just go through and,

MIC2:

whoop! Okay. So, Like the

Trent Manning:

software I use, it says Mike bleed

MIC2:

detected. Would you like to eliminate it? And you select yes, but it doesn't eliminate any of it. I don't understand

Trent Manning:

why it even tells you. I mean, it's basically like telling you,

MIC2:

you really screwed up and you're going to pay for this.

Trent Manning:

click. Yes.

MIC2:

To continue.

Justin King:

Yeah. Yeah,

Trent Manning:

Thank y'all.

Chad Kintzer:

Thank you. Yeah, thank you.

Trent Manning:

thank you so much for listening to the Reel turf techs podcast. I hope you learned something today. Don't forget to subscribe. If you have any topics you'd like to discuss, or you'd like to be a guest, find us on Twitter at Reel turf techs.