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May 08, 2024 • Trent Manning

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This thing's running really slow so I'm trying to ask y'all to speak. I think there you can hit at the bottom left to, uh, if you want to speak because I don't know why it doesn't want to let me, uh, add y'all. I can hear you loud and clear Trent. All right, well that's good. Yeah, I was trying to add, uh, Nate and Mo and Chris and I don't know why it won't let me add them. I know Chris is probably because he's in Canada, but I don't know why it won't let me add anybody else. Maybe you gotta be in Michigan. I guess I dropped off there. I don't know what's going on here. I just approved Mo. Let's, dot them and dot them. Is, uh, is this Moe? Yep, this is Moe. Alright, man. I had to get everything set up with allowing the phone to use the microphone and the camera and this and that. Right, I gotcha. Yeah, it's, uh, it's a challenge. And, uh, I hadn't done this in, uh, quite some time. So. I got, I don't know what this thing's doing. Chris says he's picking up pizza for the boys. So, that's good to know. We're doing hot dogs tonight. Alright, well that's good. Can't beat that. Can't go wrong with a hot dog. Yeah. I'm not gonna say, uh, first thing that comes to mind. We'll just, uh, leave it PG here. Ha Mo, do you do any 3D CAD, CAM, any of that stuff? I used to a couple years ago. I got a, uh, it's a Sculpto. It was at Joann's. I got it for like 50 bucks. Okay. And I started messing around with it like on Thingiverse just like to get into it. Mm hmm. But I never, like, I never got into the part of designing stuff because it's half the stuff is made of plastic and like most of what we do or what I would do around the house, you know, I don't know what would be the appropriate application for the different kinds of filament they got. So I just never really got into it. So, but it was more of a 3d printer type thing. Oh yeah, it's a 3D printer. It's, it, um, Sculpto. S C U L P T O. If you look it up on YouTube, you can see. It's got like a rotating base. And then the nozzle sits on top and it, you know, does its thing. And it's pretty easy to use. But like, when you know you want to do stuff and you gotta like, When you're 3d printing, you know, make a base and then you make the support while it's printing and then all that. I never really got into all the minutiae of doing it, but in school I took some CAD and uh, you know, that's pretty basic stuff. Okay, yeah, yeah, cool. Yeah, I've been recently trying to learn Fusion 360. That's new to me. I got a CNC machine, uh, you know, it's more of a woodworking CNC machine. I don't know, probably five or six years ago. And what's that? So you sound like me. You got it five or six years ago. I still haven't gotten around to using it. Well, no, no. Now this thing I've used a lot. Um, but the program I use for it is, uh, Vetric or it's made by Vetric and it's vCarve desktop version. And that's the software that I'm familiar with. And there was a learning curve there. It took me a while to, to get my brain wrapped around that because You would think it would be really easy to draw a line, but it's not that easy. So you got to watch videos and, and all that stuff. I said in the group chat the other day, just joking around, I need to watch a 20 minute video to learn how to draw a single line. But, and, but the, the B carve. So it has the, the CAD side. Where you create whatever your project is. And then it has the cam side that writes the G code and all different types of toolpath where you, whether you're a carving or, um, making a pocket. I mean, it's got, yeah, a lot of, a lot of different options there when the, it comes to carving stuff out. Yeah. When I was looking at that stuff for like doing woodworking, the shape Came out, it was pretty popular. Um, that was something, uh, piqued my interest, but yeah, yeah. I kinda, one of those people that's like ADHD and the, Oh, that looks cool. I'll get that. And then you kind of get into it and you don't really use it till it's fullest potential. Yeah, no, I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm guilty of that. I don't, you know, it's, uh, Whatever the bright shiny thing is, that's what I tend to draw towards and then wait for another bright shiny thing to, uh, come up. I know Nate's been, uh, playing around here lately. I talked to him earlier today with his, uh, new plasma table. My free trial just ended last night. Oh, dang. Well, so can't you use that though? Fusion 360 with, uh, if you're, what, what is it called? It's like personal use, like non commercial. I talked to, uh, there's been a sales rep that's been calling and emailing me ever since I created an account with Fusion. And I talked to him today and just to find out like what the best avenue was for me. And he told me that there is a free version, but the CAM software is not available in the free version, which I use. Uh, okay. For creating my tool paths and things of that nature. Um, whether or not I have, there's another piece of software out there that's free that I can use in place of that. I mean, I'm sure there is. Uh, but I think I'm just gonna, I've got, I've got it in a shopping cart now. I just need to pay this way up and pay for the subscription. I don't want to call you out here, but isn't that a pretty pricey subscription? Uh, six 80 a year. Yeah, that's what I was saying. I mean, it's just crazy to me. I don't, I don't know. It's one of those things for me, it's, it's nice to, to have everything in one piece of software though. Oh, yeah, I totally agree with that too, because I've made, or I mean, listen to this, I made a disc that is about five eighths diameter and it's about an eighth inch thick, and it has a spot for a counter sunk number. six screw, you know, and that took me four or five hours to design that. And then, uh, I downloaded the STL file from that, and then I had to put it in a slicer and another program. And then it said it was, uh, too small to print, you know, trying to print it on my 3d printer. Yeah. So I, I can, uh, respect having everything in one place. program. And the software that comes with the plasma table, I bought the Langemeyer Crossfire Pro plasma table, and it has, it has its own little computer that runs it, and it's got fire, fire control is the software it uses. It's, um, and it literally, I just plug it into the laptop with a USB cord, and then when I've created my G code infusion, It automatically saves it to a specific folder that I delegated or allocated. And then as soon as I plug up the fire control, it automatically opens up and I just click, click to open the G code file that I had and click cut and it's ready to rock. Yeah, that's cool. That was really cool. Yeah, I don't, maybe I'll bite the bullet and do it. I'll pay some, uh, decent subscription fees for the podcast stuff, like editing software. And the company Riverside that I use to, uh, record the podcast. So I'm just take it out of the old real turf tax budget, I guess. Yeah. I'm gonna have to get another sponsor though, or start selling something. Well, the next, the next piece of software I want to mess with later on down the road is that Adobe illustrator has got a, I mean, it's, I think it's 25, 30 bucks a month for that, but it's got a new, like, AI generator in it. So you can just type in what you want an image of and it'll create it yourself. Yeah, that's, that's pretty incredible limitations are. Yeah, I don't, I mean all this AI stuff and I've been playing with, uh, a little bit chat GPT and it's amazing what it puts out with the amount of. It's a small amount of effort you have to put into a chat GPT and it just spits all this stuff out and it's like, how does it know? I mean, it's crazy. It's almost scary. It is. The T 1000s are coming. Well, yeah, so a guy at work today, one of our assistant superintendents, was showing me a video and it looked just like iRobot. And this guy's talking to the robot and There's a table in front of the robot and a few things I couldn't see what all was on the table, but it said, hand me something to eat and it picks up an apple and hands it to the dude and then the dude like dumps out some trash and there's a plastic container and he says, I want you to explain why you gave me the apple while you put away this trash. And the thing like starts explaining, well, that was the only thing on the table and he's picking the trash up and putting it back in the camp container. You know, and I don't, maybe this is AI generated AI. I don't, I don't know what's going on here, man. It's crazy. Wow. Yeah, that's, that is scary. So, yeah, I mean, who knows, maybe we'll have some of these robots riding. The mowers and mowing fairways. I, you know, I don't know. Or send them out to the weed. Eat. I don't, I don't know. Can you have'em smart enough to know where to, where to go when, when it needs it? Yeah. Can you, uh, train'em to use a fly mow around lake banks? Well, this is all, all questions I got. Say again, Mo, I said, or stay away from Lake Banks. That could be too. Yeah. I mean, who knows this is, uh, it's nuts. Water and robots. That sounds like a good idea. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, yeah. And like all the robotic mowers, that's what I want to know. Can it replace a fly mower? If you can make a robotic mower that has pontoons on it, that can mow, but lake banks or something. Yeah. I'm sold. I'd buy a bunch. So, speaking of CAD and CAM, I'm wondering if there, there won't one day be an ability to take one of those autonomous mowers and instead of using, like, those proximity sensors, if you can program X, Y coordinates for it to repetitively follow, and instead of being autonomous, it's just following orders and can mow what you tell it to mow. Yeah, I don't, yeah, I can see where you're going with that. I don't know. I mean, yeah, it definitely makes sense. I mean, why not? You know, if it, uh, go ahead. Sorry. Let's say doesn't Toro have a product when they came out, um, to show one of their sprayers. The guy came out beforehand and mapped a part of our course to do the GPS part on the sprayer. I mean, that'd be something, you know, you can do with all that. Well, yeah. And I mean, that's kind of where the technology is going right now, but all that is GPS based and a lot of it works off of RTK repeaters that you have to, you know, pay for it. So yeah, they go out and map the course and they create boundaries basically. Yeah. And then the sprayer will stay, or the mower, whatever you're running will stay inside those boundaries. And, I don't know if Toro has it worked out, but But, and I know they're working on it, but I don't know if it's complete, but John Deere, their GPS sprayers is pretty slick. So it works off the same technology and the RTK, you can get it, uh, Verizon or AT& T, whichever one has better service in your area. But say you spray a pass across the fairway, With one sprayer, if you come back with another sprayer and go perpendicular and at an angle and cross that path that the other sprayer sprayed, it will turn the nozzles off as it gets to the past and then turn it back on after it crosses over, which is really cool. So cool. Everybody doesn't have anything to say about it. This funny thing is, Trent, is that's been out, like deer has had that in the ag. For like 20 years now, it's just finally getting to the point where it's they're getting it into their the The biggest part was getting it on the platform Like for instance, I know, um, I mean this was this was 20 Probably not quite 20 years, but probably 15 years ago Um, I know a farmer back home and he would spray And then if it was too wet, he would just go around it And then it would all store and then he would pull a separate sprayer that he set up behind a Truck hold on set up behind a truck That was set up for this corn rows and everything and he'd go back and re spray that later on at a different date That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And why did it take so long to get to us? I don't know. And every, everything that I've heard anyway, I think John Deere's got the market kind of cornered on the GPS technology because, uh, The few courses around me in the South and you know, granted in the South, we have a lot of trees, but, and we use one of the Toro sprayers for several years and we just couldn't get it to work in some areas of our course because of the tree cover. And, you know, It was the course in Midtown Atlanta. So, you know, there's high rises and I don't know what's happening to GPS signals over that course. Yeah, the, the, the, the, it's amazing. The technology that ag has that we don't like even my, I have a buddy that's an agronomist at a research farm. Um, and he said that they're working on a variable, um, Corn planter. So what happens is they will, um, the, the planter has like moisture meters and whatnot in the, in the, um, seed monitors and it will disperse seed based on the need they think for that soil. So like, it'll be more or less seed. You know, obviously in a wetter area, they're probably going to do a little bit less seed. And if it's more, you know, if it's drier, they'll pull a little bit more seed in it. Um, just by pulling it and the amount of information he, and he's, you know, he sprays, uh, too. So it's the amount of technology that they have on their sprayers. Like he's like, if they got a clogged nozzle, they know right away, you know, it's, it's, there's a, you know, an alert goes off because it can. You can sense the, you know, the difference in pressure that, you know, that small variance in pressure and say, oh, you got to plug nozzle, but it's amazing that the technology that AG has that isn't, you know, quite coming over to our side yet. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's crazy what, what all they got going on. Yeah, and I'm sure we could have, you know, a lot of the same stuff. And like you said, John Deere's had this in ag for however long. I mean, I don't know why, why it took so long to get over here. If there wasn't a need for it, if labor was cheaper or, you know, back in the day, maybe there wasn't a need for it, but with labor shortages and everything else, I definitely think there is now. I seen, uh, Jordan Roth. I don't know if he joined just because, uh, Nate's in here and other person from Nebraska, or if he thought there was a two before to talk to him in the room. No, I thought I'd never hopped in on one of these. I thought I'd just kind of sit in the shadows that lasted one minute. And then I'd figured out how to turn my mic on. Hi everybody. Yeah, welcome Jordan. You know, man, I really like you. So I'm just giving you a hard time. I appreciate it. I would expect nothing less. Uh, those are out, you know, we kind of talk about the ag industry being Technologically advanced and they are um, I think it probably comes down to dollars and cents aspect of it Just as far as the the sure amount of money that goes in for inputs and outputs on that industry compared to what we have but one other thing I find interesting is I come from a farming family on Both sides And I got a, my mom's brother has been experimenting the last couple of years with tracking growing degree days and spoon feeding nitrogen on his, uh, on his fields as far as row crops go like corn and soybeans. And that's something that we've been tracking growing degree days for growth regulators for quite a while in our industry. So he was talking to me about it and I'm like, yeah, that's kind of old news for us, but you guys got all the fun toys. So I think there's a little trade off there. Yeah. I mean, that makes, makes sense, I guess. Yeah. I'm surprised those farmers were not doing that already, but logistically in the state of Nebraska, as far as the nitrate levels in the groundwater, there's like different phases and I'm not smart enough to give you all the details, but they're becoming more and more regulated on that side of things, as far as, uh, leaching and runoff goes for chemicals and fertilizers. So they're, they're very, I mean, they're in a place where you can go, used to be able to go, you know, 10, 20 feet and dig a well and find water. Right. So, that's something they're becoming more and more conscientious of and trying to be stewards of the environment. And, you know, I think sometimes us on the golf courses get labeled as, oh, it's a golf course, it's bad for the environment. It's like, no, we've been trying to do what we do and do a good job of it so we can keep doing it for quite a while. But, that's just my opinion. I mean, I think anybody in this room that, um, would agree with you that, I mean, we spend a lot of time and a lot of effort and a lot of money to help the environment and try to do the right thing. We don't pour our oil down the drain anymore. No, not that I ever did, but you know, I mean, that stuff was happening back in the day, poured in a ditch and dig a hole, you know, I mean, we're not doing that. And all these. You know, chemicals that we spray on the golf course are pretty darn safe as far as getting into drinking water and, you know, all that kind of stuff. And I forget what, I've heard some kind of study saying you were more likely to be exposed to Roundup buying groceries at the grocery store than you were playing golf or working on a golf course. Yeah, I don't, I don't doubt that to some extent there. That's, I feel like, uh, probably us as homeowners have more potential to be more hazardous to our surroundings than businesses, farmers, and golf courses, just with the lack of regulation on use on stuff. But this is kind of an odd topic for EMs. Usually we talk like bed knife angles and. Well, so this started out as, uh, more of a CAD, uh, 3d printing. Yeah. Then, then, then you come in and talk about farming and spray in and, and all that stuff. So did Nate lion bring up his, uh, CNC plasma machine he's got set up yet. Yeah, that's all, that's all we've talked about. So, so he send me pictures. I'm gonna have to put an order in one of these. Well, um, I'm ahead of line and I'm in front of you in line. I already got an order in. I'm excited about it, talking to him about it today. Nice. Yeah. Very cool. I think I got a few things going right now, but not, not a whole lot. Yeah. And again, Nate, why did, why did you get this just to play with or what? Honestly, uh, so I'll, I'll give you the shorter version of the story as I can, but, uh, me and my wife, when we left Florida, we bought an RV and lived in it for about two and a half years. And then may of last year is when we bought our house that we're in now. And we thought that we would be able to sell the RV rather quickly. And that has turned out to be not the case. So I got it with the intention of trying to make a little bit of money with it to offset that. The expense of that RV just sitting in my backyard. Okay. That makes sense. I know Jordan's already got an RV, right? Yeah. I got a good line on one. Yeah. Yeah. We, we do the glamping thing and Nate's RV is, um, like glamping on steroids. That's that's beyond the weekend adventure for a guy like me. Okay. I think it's twice the size of my first apartment when I got out of college. It's got some size to it. A 42 foot fifth wheel with four slot outs. Oh, nice. That's awesome. But yeah, I mean, if you're gonna live in it for two years, that's, that's a whole different story. Yeah. Well, it was, it was nice while it lasted. Now that we're in the house, it's just sitting back there. Just collecting dust and, and dry rotting in the sun. So, um, I, I had to put a cover on it to protect it and, um, and just still making that monthly payment, even though we're not using it. Yeah. That's one thing. Yeah. When I had a bass boat and I was making a payment, you know, in the wintertime and not fishing and like, really? Am I paying for this? But yeah, that's tough. But I've always wanted a CNC plasma. Also, I mean, I also want a CNC router like you mentioned. I mean, I want it all. Don't we all? Don't all of us want that? But, um, It was one of those ways the sweet talked the wife into getting it. When I told her that we could make some money with it and offset our RV payment and that got her sold. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You snuck that one in a lot, two birds, two birds, one stone worked out well. Yeah, no, that's good. That's really good. And I think, uh, John, he's, he's been working on a table and now that Nate has one, maybe he'll get with a program and get his together. You're still there, John. Yeah, I gotta, I gotta get my butt in gear. Well, it didn't like you got anything else going on, like restoring 25 different cars and selling them and everything else. I mean, I just picked up a Volkswagen. I mean, what can you do? Yeah, right. Yeah. Price was right. I'm sure. Yeah. Yes, it was. Yep. It always is. I clearly, I think I just gotta get steel and bolts because I think I have everything else I need. All my parts are 3d printed. Really? No. Yeah. So that's a long time. Yeah. Walk, walk me through this. I, I wanna, I wanna see what this is about. It's essentially, um, it's called like J d's garage on YouTube. They took like the, uh, the smaller Lang Mar, um, CNC plasma table and pretty much essentially copied it and, um, did like a bunch of 3D printed files, um, to make like all your bearing carriers. Uh, like torch holder, like a bunch of parts and it's just like two by two steel frame, uh, gantry with like a support. And then like, I have like printed out the Z axis. So it's, uh, you can actually, uh, adjust the Z axis, uh, hopefully eventually it'll come with a torchlight controller. Um, but yeah, stepper motors, Arduino, uh, RAN. Okay. Okay. So it's like, I have a box of a bunch of electrical parts, a box full of 3d printed parts now, and then, um, some like just bracing and like motor plates cut out of, uh, like, you know, like quarter inch plate. So do they, do they sell like a kit with all the motor parts? No, they sell plans for like 25. And this got all the files that you need to print. Yeah. All the files you need to print a one to one like drawings for like the motor plates, stuff like that. And then like instructions on how to build the whole thing. But then they have a list like in their, um, bill of materials, they have a list of like everything you need, uh, links to pretty much all the stuff, like electronic stuff you have to buy a whole link to Amazon, you can find stuff cheaper. Obviously if you want to dig like through it like, you know ebay or wherever else you can find stuff I'm gonna save a couple bucks here and there But like they say Minus like because like they use for their water table they use a uh Like a washer pan that you buy for your washer Like a stainless steel washer pan and that's really like probably the most expensive piece besides a plasma cutter, obviously um Cause it's like 130 bucks for that pan. It always, you don't even need one technically, but they say like minus the water pan, you can do it for like 350 bucks minus the CNC plasma cutter, obviously, but like, I don't know what I haven't, it's been like a long process of just gathering parts, like I said, like three printed a bunch of parts obviously, and then. I just got to go to the steel yard and get steel and start putting it together. But it'll, it'll work with any plasma cutter. Uh, it has to be like a, like a blow back. It can't be a, like the cheap plasma cutter. Um, I can't remember the two differences. Like I think it's the higher frequencies. I think I can't remember, but they, they list, I guess they use, like, they use a Lotus where mine was eBay or not Amazon plasma cutters, but like, I know, like Someone's using one of the Harbor Freight ones, but it doesn't have like per se like the Just a regular plug in for like the CNC to turn a torch on You actually have to open the case and then like tap into the wires like the plasma cutter. I got off of uh, It was technically through amazon, but it was amazon return. So like it was like half price I actually had you can just plug it into like the uh, pretty much the electronic box you're making for the plasma cutter You Oh, okay. Because it has, it's, it's, it's, it's made for CNC machines. I got you already has like, you know, the connectors for it. So it's not like I have to open it up and hardwire. I can just plug it in. So it's kind of nice that way. Yeah, no, that, yeah, that makes sense. Cause you know, I was just thinking, I got a plasma cutter. Could I just, you know, spend the money and do something like this? Cause I know, uh, pretty much that's like a blowback plasma cutter. I got. And like they have a they have a list of ones like they recommend to use I just don't know. I can't remember. I think it's the high frequency ones Or the ones I definitely know the ones you have to touch the metal start. You can't use I know that it screws up with all the uh Electronics on the table. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's what the problem is with some of the plasma cutters I know I think anything that you could use with a regular table like any table you could use with this. Okay So, I mean if you If you know yours could be used with a plasma table, you could build your own. Yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't think so. Probably not. I hadn't even heard of a plasma table when I got this. Like, I think they were out, but I hadn't heard about it. Well, you really could build it. Like there's, I guess, certain on like, what X, Y axis, I think is a certain blank that you can go because of the gantry style it is, it's not supported on the other end. Yeah. But essentially if I figure if I need to, if I want to build a bigger table, I'm going to print, um, more bearing blocks for the gantry and run like, you know, parallel tubes to get like, you know, four by eight if I want to do it down the road. So like it's, it's nice because you can pretty much build whatever size table you want with the basics that they have, but you have to like do a little bit more to do that. Well, and I was also thinking about that. If you could get this thing up and running, you could even, uh, cut out your, you know, the plates, the mounting surfaces for the stepper motors and all that stuff, instead of having them 3d printed. Oh, yeah. Oh, well, like the, so like the mounts for the motors and stuff are all like, you pretty much hand cut out for right now, because I'm on a plasma table, you know, essentially, essentially you could like, you could just start cutting out the pieces. For like another table or someone else's or whatever you want to do, but they also have like so they have like a rotary tube notcher they have for It's in the it's included in the plans. Oh, okay And essentially what they do is they give you the the uh, the files to plasma cut the pieces for that Pretty much. So like you get your table set up and once you start to learn to use it Then you can make your rotary tubing notcher You With like your plasma table, you know Do that. Oh, that's awesome But it's pretty wild how they do do infusion to notch tubes and stuff It's it's wild because like it's not what you like because it's all like drawn flat But then like infusion you can turn it so like it's you know The two inch tube or whatever and you can see what the notch is going to look like it's So if you design infusion, like it'll tell you like You'll know where to put your notch where to bend it if you're building like whatever you're building You So it's wild how, like, how you can do that all infusion and then like pretty much straighten that pipe, notch it, bend it, and then everything fits together. It blows my mind. Like I got to spend more time infusion. Like, like you said, every time you get in there, it's like another hour figuring out how do I draw this line again? How do I do this? Well, yeah, so yeah, long story, but we got time. Right. So at about. I don't know what year it is, but it's a 13 inch South Bend lathe. It's got like a six foot bed. The, I think I can get in a piece, you know, I mean, almost 48 inches. And between, uh, centers, but, uh, you know, and this thing's forever old and one of the gears that drives the, the shaft, it was broken and somebody had tried to repair it and it broke again. And obviously they hadn't made these in, I don't know how many years. So you can't really find parts for them. And I found some dude on eBay and he's 3d printing gears. For the South Bend lays and he puts a brass bushing or bronze bushing in the center of it and he's selling them for like 60 bucks. So anyway, I got a 3d printer. So I said, all right, I want to make one of these. And I, I had this idea, I don't like three months ago and I got in there and figured out how, and they make it pretty easy how to do a spur gear and fusion 360. But I go back in there the other day, I have no clue. So I have to watch the video all over again on how to do a spur gear. Um, so yeah, anyway, uh, I get where you're coming from. I feel your pain. Yeah. It's it's, it's weird because it's not intuitive as you would think it would be. To like do stuff, but once you like kind of like remember or watch the video learn how to do it It's like I can do this again, but if you don't do it every day It's it's not very intuitive how the controls are on it No, and that's the thing that kind of bugs me because if you make whatever it is You make a circle. How do you go back and change the size of that circle? You know, they don't make that really straightforward and easy to do I can't remember what I was trying to do the other like, oh, not the other day, but a couple weeks ago, I was trying to do something and like, I literally was trying to make a box, like, this can't be this hard, like, go watch a video and I'm like, oh, okay, I'm stupid. But then like trying to resize something. I'm like, Oh, There's no, there's no way to click on here. Just resize it. That's all I want to do. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I end up, yeah. Going back, going back and, uh, draw it five times. Yep. Just keep drawing it over again. Delete, start over, delete, start over. So I've got pretty good at that part of it. I'm sure it's probably an easy way. I just haven't found it yet. I don't, Nate, you got any ideas on how you. Go back and pick stuff. No, I run into the same. Okay. I'm glad, I'm glad me and John aren't the only ones that run into this. The only thing that I've found that helps is the, uh, sketch scale. Have you messed with that at all? No, I don't think so. Yeah. Where, where is that at? It's under modify when you're in fusion. And what you can do is you click sketch scale and when you, once you've selected that, you click on that. Any item or line or whatever within your sketch and you can you add in it'll ask you, you know, normally when you draw a circle or rectangle, whatever asks you like what your radius is, um, or what do you want it to be in this? It's a multiplier. So like if you drew a two inch circle and then you decided you wanted a four inch circle, you could do sketch scale and click on that circle and type in two and it'll double the size of that circle. Oh, okay. But if you, if it's not an even number, like, I'll give you an example, I needed to, there was an item that I was doing the other day, I took an image and got it all the way I wanted to, but it was too large or too small for what I wanted. And I wanted to make a 24 inch pieces or a sign, and this thing was like eight inches in diameter. So, but it was eight point whatever. So I just did the math on the calculator and to, to find out what I needed to multiply it by to get it exactly 24 inches. Like it ended up being like, I don't know, 2. 7, 8, 5, 6, or some random number. And so that is my multiplier. And then my entire image expanded to exactly 24 inches in diameter. And that scale under modify. Is that what you said? Did I lose you? Yeah, I took off my microphone as soon as I clicked over to Fusion. Oh, ha ha ha. Okay, yep, that happens. Yeah, when you're, when you're in the sketch, and you go to modify, it'll say sketch scale. Oh, okay, alright. In the drop down box under modify. Alright. Yeah, I just pulled it up and pulled up modify and there's a scale there under modify, but I'm not in the sketch tab. Yeah. And that's another thing that's really tricky is whether or not you're how to get back into a sketch. If you accidentally get out of it, it can be tricky. Oh yeah. Yeah. No, I know. Yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about the other day. So I got like three or four files and, um, these different things I've been working on and I had no idea how to get into one. And I'm like, how, how do I find it? And then inside it was, I don't know what the deal was, but on my laptop, I was connected to the internet, but fusion was not connected to the internet. And for like 20 minutes, it wasn't connected. And I'm, you know, messing around, trying to figure out how to get in this thing. And that's what it was, you know, I keep clicking on it a lot. Let's say again. I get that working offline prompt a lot. Yeah, that's, I don't know, because, well, the other thing, a lot of times I'll leave Fusion open and close my laptop, and then, yeah, when I open it back up, it doesn't like to play nice with me. Yeah, it's been fun learning it though. Well, I had the same experience with that program I was talking about before with VCarve. I mean, that was, that was a fun learning curve. All that stuff out and being able to, uh, we, we make all the signs or I say we. I make all the signs for the golf course. And I should say we, cause, uh, we got a guy that he's really talented woodworker and all that kind of stuff. So a lot of times he'll cut out the squares and then I'll do all the carving, but what I started getting into is high density urethane. And so it's a dense foam. I forget what weight, 15, 20 pound weight, whatever it is. And the cool thing about it is it's really easy on your bits and you can carve it at almost double the speed as wood. And, you know, and it doesn't absorb moisture. I mean, it's awesome. And it paints, you can paint it. Just like you would would and uh, it lasts for a really long time. So I've been out of business for like the last three or four years because we got all our signs done. So we'll see and you know, occasionally they'll say, oh, we need a sign for this, but you know, most of all the signs And, and ready to go. And that was, you know, kind of a selling thing to the club on getting this particular CNC machine is we could do that kind of stuff with it. That's yeah, that's good stuff. I talked to my boss about the same thing, kind of want to do metal, uh, cutouts for T markers and, uh, whole signs and things of that nature. Maybe, maybe one day I'll get that contract. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's possible. I know, uh, Corey Phillips, he was when he was at Horseshoe Bend, he's not there now, but when he was there, he was working on 3D printing T markers. But I don't know that he ever finished that. And a lot of it was, well, that was a lot of it. Yeah. It was the print time. And then the design that they wanted, you know, was not easy to print. So he would, you know, working out all that stuff on how he could print it. Well, I, I, you know, I think I said this in the, What's up yesterday, but I feel for you guys trying to do like 3D printing through Fusion, just because I can only imagine trying as much of a challenge and learning curve as it is for me doing two dimensional sketches. I can only imagine what it's like for you guys to do three dimensional sketches in there. It just blows my mind. What's up. I mean, it all depends on what you're doing. I'm going to steal this from, uh, Jordan Roth. It's a whole nother dimension. That's, that's my dad joke for the night. Couldn't, couldn't, couldn't help. Had to go there. Go ahead. There's a good, I'll derail this again, but. You got to remember, I'm not into 3d printing. I'm not into the CNC plasma thing or the design software. I just got an odd question here for you guys to do this more than I do. Like we have an assistant at our shop. He got a 3d printer and I was asking them a few things because I thought, Hey, it'd be really cool if we could 3d print some sort of bearing housing cover for cutting units so that we could put an O ring in there. Bolt bearing housing cover onto the cutting unit and wash cutting units in the offseason in the wash bay without having to worry about water intrusion. If that makes sense to you. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And uh, because right now I just use like a piece of lexan with three layers of gorilla tape and the holes drilled in the right spot. It works, but it'd be cool if it was like a better snap in fit that Yeah, anyway, he told me that like the filament that he's using in his 3d printer states that it's not Good and be in or around water So is there various filaments that you guys can pick when you're doing your 3d print projects that are more conducive to a wet environment versus what maybe my buddy Jacob's using I don't, that's a great question and I'll let somebody else jump in here because I don't know, all I've used is a PLA and it's, uh, I don't know if it can handle the wet stuff or not. Yeah. I mean, there's like, I'm trying to think offhand because you got PLA, PTEG, ABS. I would think ABS would be fine, but that brings a lot of problem of. You really want an enclosure and ventilation because ABS and ASA are pretty nasty. You're going to want to think about getting a tumbler as well. Something to kind of like smooth out the finish. Smooth out the stair stepping so that you don't have any water seep in. And then another thing you might want to think about doing is clear coating on top of it too. Um, you might also want to look at a different technology like a resin based technology. Those tend to hold up a lot better. They have smoother surfaces. Um, you can get those types of printers, like a DLP printer for like 200, 300, 400 bucks. Most of them are Chinese, but like, um, and the only thing, the only thing I'll say about those is like the resins, they tend to like stink up the whole place. You know, it's like, it's basically liquid cancer, but uh, so just, just, just make sure you. You understand that but I mean, yeah, you get better finish with uh with resin based printers You know where you get that stair step in on the fdm printers. You're gonna have you're not gonna have that with uh, with a resin based printer Very cool That's kind of what he was saying. He goes I can't do it with what I got and i'm not I'm, like a superintendent trying to set a cutting unit up when it comes to this stuff. So I just, he goes, I don't want to do it inside my house. I'm like, Hey, enough said, man. That's all you got to say. Just to introduce myself. So I actually sell, sold, I've sold industrial 3d printers. Like as part of my career. So I just been lurking and just listening to what you guys are talking about. I have no, like no clue about like agricultural stuff, but I just think it's wild that you guys are using 3d printers to like fix your stuff. I think it's cool. So to give you a little background on us, we're all golf course mechanics. And so we work on all the golf course equipment and just like everybody thinks we work on lawnmowers and golf carts, which we do, but the lawnmowers we work on like a fairway mower is upwards of a hundred thousand dollars. So it's not, you know, pawpaws, snapper that cost a couple hundred dollars back in the day. Um, so pretty, pretty high end stuff. And I've talked about it a couple of times with some other friends that it wouldn't surprise me one day if some of the big manufacturers like John Deere or Toro would just sell you the file and you could print your own plastic part. 100 percent you're hitting the nail on the head, but like, cause like they, they already have an AM center of excellence at Deere. I know that for a fact, like I worked at HP on the 3d printing team and I also worked at a company called EOS. They make like the most, like they make the most like metal 3d printers on the planet. And so they sell directly to those guys. And those guys have like an AM center of excellence somewhere in like either North Carolina or probably like in Chicago somewhere. Cause I know they got a big office in Illinois. So, but definitely hitting the nail on the head there in the sense of like, eventually just be able to buy the file and print it. Now, for people like you and me, like we don't have room for like one of the large industrial printers that can print those really nice parts. The problem is the future is probably like community driven sort of centers where they have those sorts of printers. Right. Okay. Yeah. Kind of like a library sort of thing. Do you know of any of those in the country? Absolutely. So when I worked, when I worked at HP, you can feel free to connect with me offline, um, I can direct you to a couple of manufacturers that have HP technology. So if you're looking for something more robust on a plastic side, um, I would definitely look at like nylon 12, like that's a really good one. And then I know that HP technology also prints, uh, polypropylene. You'll get a nice smooth finish. It's almost like an injection mold of plastic, but pretty dense, pretty tough, um, that's on the polymer side. And then if you're looking for something metallic too, um, there's some, some guys that can print one offs, but the thing is though, metal three printing, it's still pretty darn expensive, like per part. So, um, there's definitely that. So it's still probably if you can, uh, Cut it out. It was probably cheaper than trying to print it. A hundred percent. Yeah. If you can cut it out, like the thing is too, it's like, if it's designed the way it was like in this traditional form, you're probably better off just like manufacturing it the traditional way. Cause it's not optimized for 3d printing, but you know, printing a gear in plastic, like absolutely. I like with the HP machine, you can like toss so many parts in that, that it brings down the cost. So it's like super cheap. Oh, I gotcha. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. Like Send, like SendCutSend, but for 3D printing, so to speak. I'm sorry? You familiar with SendCutSend? Uh, there's so many, there's so many businesses out there. Yeah, SendCutSend is a, is a pretty large company as far as metal cutting, plasma and laser cutting. Okay, you can just send them CAD files or sketches and they cut a part out for you and send it back to you. And um, I was doing some reading on their website a few weeks ago and they're in the process of expanding the services that they can offer into 3D printing and wood products such as CNC routers and stuff like that. So it's, one day that'll be a good resource as well. They're pretty reasonably priced. Thank you very much. um, if you got a CAD file, you can send two the CAD file, you can send anything to'em and they'll cut it and send it to you. Sure. Yeah. No, and I, I, I, I couldn't help but notice hearing you guys talking about like, you know, your troubles with, uh, 360, like, I don't, I'm not a designer by trade, like, um, but I've kind of farted around with it a couple times and I totally agree with you guys that. Yeah, I, I look at this industry as kind of like a parallel to like the PC industry and like the 80s and 90s, like there's like a whole bunch of RepRap people that have a bunch of 3D printers, they take them apart, they know how to put them, put them back together. But there's not like a really user friendly like software that can kind of guide you through like the design process of like, you know, really kind of like, you know, becoming a power user on this stuff and I think it's going to be important. Like in the future, especially you think about like your kids generation like my my niece is eight years old and She's got three printers in her school and she talks about how she like uses them in like a stem class sometimes, you know like it's It's pretty wild, you know, so it just reminds me of like back when not everybody had a computer Like my brother and I would go to the library and we'd play Carmen San Diego on the computer in the library, you know. I love it, man. We must be about the same age. It's so cool. Yeah, you know, like, or you play like Oregon Trail or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I loved Oregon Trail. Just don't get dysentery. But I mean, that's, that's kind of what needs to happen for 3d printing is it needs to be somewhere that like people can somewhere local where communities can kind of like at a child level can like adopt it, you know, um, and like kind of see it, touch it, feel it sort of thing. Um, that's going to be necessary because as you see right now, all these like, you know, Overinflated, like software based tech companies are just like getting on board. Because they don't, we've, we've lost, we've, we've lost the ability to make things, you know, and, um, I, I think this technology can, can really help us, like, get back to that. So, I think it's really, like, like I said, I think it's really cool what you guys are doing and, um, utilizing this technology for the, for the good of what you guys are doing on an everyday basis. So, I just thought it was really cool that you set up this room. Yeah, no, I appreciate you, you jumping in here and I'll be a real honest. Most people that know me know how honest I am. Um, yeah, I just figured you were some troll. And when you asked to speak a minute ago, I'm like, okay, who's this guy? So I left you hanging and then when you jumped in the second time I said, okay, Well, maybe he's got something to say so and i'm so glad you did because you seem very knowledgeable on this Oh, I appreciate it. And you know, I could I can understand too, you know I could I could kind of get that you guys have kind of been hosting a room together to get like just together So I figured that I probably was like second best Some outsider or something. So totally understood. It's all good. Yeah. And to give you a little bit more about us. So I have a podcast called the real turf techs and I interviewed like everybody that's in here speaking and a lot of the people that's listening, um, I've interviewed before, so, you know, we've known each other for a long time and we're in the golf industry and we see each other once a year at wherever our, conferences. So yeah, this is kind of, you know, our group and we got a WhatsApp group where we talk about this and that and it just so happened, you know, I'm kind of getting more into 3D printing and, uh, Nate's working on his plasma table and I know, uh, John's, uh, Working on a plasma table plus he does 3d printing. So anyway, I just thought it'd be a fun topic tonight Sometimes we talk about cutting units Like the real mowers that mow the grass and sometimes we talk about equipment and sometimes uh, Who knows what we might be talking about? But thank you for stopping by Sure, no, I appreciate you having me over, but I just wanted to say well Even though I don't have the capacity to kind of like help you technically on the design side, I know people that might be able to do that. So I'd be happy to facilitate, you know, some people that might be able to kind of help guide you guys through a little bit through that. So, um, just putting that out there, uh, that's something you guys would be interested in at some point. Yeah, I mean, definitely. I'll, uh, if I get to that point, I'm going to, uh, hit you up on X and, uh, we'll go from there. Cool. Sounds like a plan. Well, hey, thanks for having me. Oh yeah. No, thanks man. Appreciate it. I don't want to steal too much of you guys. It's time. I don't know. It's all good. We're going, we're going to see what a big shooters got to say. He jumped in here. I'm sure he's a wealth of knowledge. What up, Trent? Well, what's up, Seth? How you doing, man? I'm hanging in there. Tired. Yeah. Yeah. Long, long week. It's Tuesday. Trying to finish renovating a bathroom, trying to finish that at your house or in the shower? Okay. All right. Yeah, that's, that's tough work. Um, uh, what I was going to say is I should be more interested in all this stuff because my stepdad, that's all he does is sell CNC machines and 3d printers and stuff, but. Man, I'm, I'm not smart enough to understand this stuff. Oh yeah, he's big into it. They, he sells So basically the whole southeast, if you're in a tech school or, you know, in high schools and whatnot, so they sell, I, I should send you some pictures of the stuff they sell. Um, he's got, uh, an 18 Wheeler with about 12 or 14 Miller welders in there that they sell to a, uh, like tech schools for welding. Okay. That's awesome. Welding booths set up in there. Um, yeah, man, I never got into it. My stepbrother, he, I mean, he bought a CNC machine from the company and started, started making his own upper and lowers for AR fifteens and stuff. And now he's got a pretty good business in Tennessee that he sells firearms to the military. Oh, that's awesome. That was, yeah, that's cool as shit. Well, yeah. So he's, is he cutting those out of plastic or? No, he, he bought serious. He's doing aluminum or something. Right. Yeah. They, yeah. I mean, these are like big, big CNC machines. Not like, you know, gotcha. Not ones that little ones that go in a van or something. Um, no, that's so cool though. Yeah. I don't, I might, uh, I got, I'm working on a project, another project. Um, I might, uh, Hit your stepbrother up because I need some CNC stuff like that. I know, I know, uh, like one of their main, uh, manufacturers they sell for is Haas, um, for CNC. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. That's high dollar stuff. That's way out of my price range. I never got, I never got into it. I mean, he's, he's retired now, so they're, I think he's doing, uh, contract work. Um, You know his he was the president And uh now he's just doing contract work while he's somewhat retired Okay, cool. Very cool. If you go to if you go to any any high school or anywhere and you know in atlanta there They are tech school and they have 3d printers and stuff. They probably bought them from him. Okay. Yeah That's sweet, yeah very cool I don't have time y'all got too much time if you're messing around with that stuff Well, um, I'll be honest, Seth, I don't have two little kids when I had two little kids. Yeah. I was not messing with this kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's true. But when the kids get older, you'll have time to mess with some stuff. because I know, I know. Your wife will not want you around the house too much. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So why, why don't you don't have to worry about that. Go play in traffic or something. Yeah. You want to give us an update? How's this renovation going? Bathroom innovation. Bathroom? Yeah. Oh, man. It's going. It's going. Okay. Well, I'm taking away at it. You know, if you get in a bind, just, just call Mike Rollins. I'm sure he'll come up there and bail you out. Yeah, it's all good. Why don't y'all got anything else y'all want to talk about anything else on your mind? I'm sure Jordan's got to have something in the chamber. Oh, Jordan. Yeah. He's always got something in the chamber, right? Hey, Trane, how was the run? Oh, it was really good. Yeah. I enjoyed it. Yeah, it was good stuff. Um, yeah, I was pleasantly surprised. I'll say that of, uh, how, how good it was. Yeah, it was good. I was not a big fan of the onion rings and I didn't try the fries. See the fries are where it's at, because if you've ever had Culver's, it's like, if you could leave the Culver's French fries in the fryer for an extra 87 seconds. They're just crispier. They're just better. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm not a big crinkle fry because you know, it's a little bit too much potato, not enough fry. Um, but yeah, if they're crispy like that, that's what I'll do next time. I'll make sure and take care you ever get back up here and we, we go somewhere cool like, you know, rounds. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, what, what are you talking about? If you ever get back up here, don't worry. I'll come see y'all again. Uh, Brian Eplin still owes me a ride and a 450 horsepower tractor that he didn't come through on last time I was up there. So yeah, to get that set up, I'm pretty sure the buddy seat and that tractors bigger than any grandma. Right. See, we see on our equipment. So I'm sure, I'm sure it is. Yeah. When he told me that I was like, this is crazy because I remember the first time I learned this news, uh, Caterpillar D five dozer, anybody know what the horsepower is in one of those? Oh, one 60, maybe. It's like 100. I mean, I, you know, this was years ago, so maybe it's increased some, but you know, it's not a lot of horsepower. So when he told me that about the tractor, I'm like, Oh my God, this is nuts. It's amazing. Power of hydraulics, right? Yes, sir. Y'all want to start talking about Pascal's law? Well, that, that make people more comfortable. Hey, Trent, I think you gotta have a, I think you gotta have a, not set. Seth's not calling Mike Rollins. You know who he's calling, right? No. Who's that? It's calling the mullet man. He's not calling. Oh yeah. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Dwayne grinds. We'll hook you up. Seth. No, he will do a bathroom like nobody's business. I mean, you'll have every, every nice vanity mirror you've ever wanted. I mean, you may not put in a bidet, but he'll do all the other stuff real good. Okay. Yeah, that's a great idea. Seth, you just got to do better, dude. Do better. Seth's been hearing that for a long time. Okay. Give him a break. He came, he came in hot into a turf talk a couple months ago. And that's exactly the first thing he said, walking in, do better. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What's going on? What's happening? All you Florida superintendents are complaining about your grass dying. Cause they don't need you. So, you know, just do better. That's good. That's good. My grass, my grass grew more. I don't know about anybody else. My grass grew. I don't. Yeah. We're y'all having a little turf talk tonight. Yeah, we did one. We did a short one. We had a couple of guys that were volunteer to the players. Come on. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Who was it? I did some, um, we had Jeremiah Mincy and Emily Casey. Okay. Came on and talked about how, you know, stuff they learned there and how it went and, you know, just, you know, overall about volunteering at an event and how beneficial it is. So, oh, that's awesome. Yeah. I don't, you know. I didn't know y'all were doing one and I went to start mine and I was like, whoopsie, uh, I've seen y'all were doing one. So I apologize. Well, I originally saw that it hit, it said eight o'clock and I'm like, okay, we'll do an hour one. And then like, when, when Ty and I went to get on, I looked at it and the same thing, it popped up here and said, Oh, it's on a seven. I'm like, We're both on at the same time. Well, you know, um, that's what happens when you schedule, when you live in the Eastern time zone and you schedule an event in central time zone, that's how that worked. So yeah, I scheduled it yesterday when I was in central time and then I get here and I'm like, whoops, that's not right. So 30 minutes before. Before we got on, so I'll, I'll figure it out one day or not. You have like four watches on your wrist to find out everybody's time zone. Yeah, right, right. And yeah, definitely. Uh, let me know when y'all would like me to be on one. I would love to, uh, love to be there. Yeah, definitely. We're, we're going through our list of people right now. I'm trying to get somebody lined up for next week. I haven't heard back from him since yesterday. What, what day do y'all normally go? We usually do it Tuesdays. Uh, usually about, you know, seven, seven 15. And, um, we try to be off by about nine o'clock because, you know, we all got to wake up at, you know, butt crack at dawn in the morning. So, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, every Tuesday, we try to do it every Tuesday. Uh, I think we've only missed. Maybe one or two. I know one of them. We both ty and I both had stuff going on So we uh, we we decided we pushed it to a thursday, I think Okay So that's that's one of the things we've done before but most of the time it's tuesdays because that's usually the We we were doing on monday and a lot of you know, a lot of private places down here, especially and um, Mondays are closed days. So they're usually pretty busy that they're not getting out till late So we're like, all right, let's push it to a tuesday and and we'll do it on tuesday night It seemed to work pretty good. So Y'all been having pretty good attendance? Yeah, overall, um, I think at the end, like, I don't know, have you done a bunch of these spaces or not usually? Not. Not typically, I usually do maybe four or five a year. And if it wasn't for Seth, I might do one a year. He kind of pushes me to do it sometimes, which is good. I need the extra motivation and it's one of those things I'd love to do, but just not enough time in the day, just like we're talking about, you know, all this 3d printing stuff and learn how to use fusion 360 and, you know, I got a lot of other stuff that I enjoy doing. And not that I don't enjoy doing this, but I don't make this a priority. Yeah. It's a lot more work than you think it is, but, um, you know, at the end of these, it goes and it'll show you how many people listened and all that stuff. So you can kind of get an idea of how many people were there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's definitely cool. Do y'all, um, air y'alls later? Yeah, so I, I take it off. I take it off and um, I'll edit it and I'll put it into podcast form and we got it out on Spotify. Okay, sweet. Yeah, there's nothing out on Apple yet. We haven't, we haven't cracked the code on getting an Apple ID. Ty and I have both been trying. We haven't made it. So, uh, It's not easy doing this basis. I'll tell you that much. Yeah, we got, we have, we got a lot of, uh, you know, technical issues and something always happens. There's always something we had. You know, we had the guy from Iceland that we were talking to, and we kept losing connection. We had, uh, I had a guy who, he's uh, he's not in turf at all, he just plays a lot of golf courses. So, it's just a different, you know, point of view for somebody to, to listen to him. And um, he gets a tornado warning, he's in Chicago. Oh wow. He had a tornado warning, he had to leave and run down to the basement, and you know, there's always something that happens on our, on our stuff, so it's, it's definitely a different animal than just recording it in the, uh. The podcast form. Uh, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Who do y'all use to host? that's what I just use the Spotify, but then we don't really, cause we don't really, it literally isn't like I, you can actually download these spaces. So I just go on and download those and then I just edit those. So I got you. Yeah. Well, the reason I asked, so I use a buzzsprout and I don't remember what it is a month. And you know, I mean, it's different price ranges for however many hours of content you want them to host, but they make it really easy to get it on everyone's podcast platform, whether it be Spotify or Apple or any of those. And I'm looking that up right now. Yeah. One of their plans is, I don't remember. It was like nine bucks a month or something. I think I'm on the 15 a month plan, which I don't even need to be now. That's when I was doing, uh, a weekly podcast, um, and I was doing a bunch of bonus stuff. Free 12, 18, and 24. So yeah, the six hours a month, 18 a month, that kind of be. That looks like a range we'd kind of be in. And yeah, I mean, this is, I guess off the off it, but, um, when I signed up for it, uh, I'm trying to remember the guy's name. He's got a super popular, um, podcast and, um, he's a creator. Um, I'll think. No, no, no, no, no, no, not, not that guy, but he does a lot of, uh, Pat Flynn. Is that it? I think it's pat Flynn. Um, anyway, he had like a promo code where you got double the hours. If he used his promo code and I don't know if that's still available, but that's, that's what I did. So, and you might get even, yeah, Google, Google, Budcast, promo codes or something and come up with something. Yeah, there's gotta be something somewhere, but I'll definitely look into it. Yeah, that'd be very helpful because Yeah, just putting it out on putting it on spotify. I've had so many people even um The guys that are against the grain there have told me they're like, yeah You gotta get out on apple because a lot of people listen to that And we've been trying to make apple ids and and both ty and I both keep getting kicked out and it won't let us do It and we're like, oh, this is this is crap. Like i'm gonna get this through here Well, and Buzzsprout gives you the stats and I know 70 percent of my listeners listen on Apple and 30 percent everywhere else. And there's like 20 percent on Spotify. Well, I think the Spotify would still show me that. Cause like I can look it up and it'll tell me, it'll tell me I got a hundred percent watch on Spotify, obviously, but, um, it'll, it'll, there is some sort of diagrams that will show up on there. Um, when you do that, but again, I haven't had the chance to see it yet, but I'll definitely look into that other one. If it's, if it's sending out to other places, that'd be awesome. Well, the next, uh, space we have, we'll talk about podcast and how to run them. No, I'm kidding. I mean, I don't, I don't care. I'm I'm down. I'm down for whatever. Well, now, I mean, I will. Yeah. Yeah. Y'all want to do one? I'll do one. I don't care. Heck, we're, we're talking about how to keep Javelina bores off a golf course by putting those wavy arm and they have in front of car dealerships on ours. So, uh, yeah, yeah, man, I would love to be out there with, uh, with a rifle of some sort. Yeah. Yeah. That problem she has out there, man. That's crazy. Yeah, no, it's not. Yeah. Do y'all have any bore in Florida? Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, we, we get'em. Um, my place right now doesn't have'em. Um, last place I was at didn't, you know, you gotta go to certain areas that have'em. Yeah, yeah. Um, I think, I think allegedly kind of Ty's area there has some. Yeah. Um, but I've, I've had'em at other courses that, that we had to trap'em and pull'em away, so. Yeah, not too far from me up here in north of Atlanta. One of the mountains, um, there's a golf course there, Lake Airhead. It's a community and golf and lake and all that stuff. And they got a large population of wild boars and they wreak havoc on the course. Yeah, we had, um, when I was at Harbor Ridge, we had three of them that we had to catch and I, I'd never been really exposed to, um, You know, wildlife like that, you know, your normal birds and all that kind of stuff. But I've never had to deal with pigs before. And the superintendent I was working for, he's he's hunted and done that stuff all his life. And he's like, all right, he's like, we're gonna trap these. You're gonna help me out. I'm like, Oh, great, here we go. So he set up a trap and there were three of them in there and I had to jump in there with them with the plywood and painted against the wall so we can we can, you know, hog tie him up and, um, and haul him away. And he took him somewhere. So, uh, he, uh, It was pretty cool experience of that. Cause I've never had to deal with that before. So, oh yeah, no, that's, that's crazy. Yep. Well, good stuff. I hadn't had dinner yet, so I'm on peace out. 10 four. We'll definitely jump on next time. You guys have it. And, uh, we'll jump on talking. Well, yeah, if, uh, I don't, yeah, hit me up. Off off air here and we'll, uh, figure out a time and seriously, we'll do a podcast thing sometime. I think a lot of people will be interested in that. Just the, like we were saying, it's like, you know, it's, it's easy, but it sounds easy, but it's not as easy as I think it is. So, well, yeah, I mean, you would think it's easy because everybody has a podcast now, but it's not so easy. Right. And I spent, I mean, at least a year just researching and getting ideas and, you know, like what all equipment I need, you know, the hosting, editing, you know, all the different softwares out there for that. Yeah. So yeah, I'd love to give a, give a chat on that. Yeah, definitely. All right. Well, thank y'all. I appreciate it until next time. Take it easy. See you guys.

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