Hi, everybody. Just me right now. Well, I was saying hi to the listeners. Uh, yeah, two, two of them. A big crowd. Big crowd. How you been, Kevin? Oh, I've been. It's been a rough start. Yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of tired. I'm ready for the winter already, buddy. Oh man, that's early. That's early. Really early. We got a nice weather, but I'm ready for the golf course to close. Just one of those days, weeks, you know. Oh yeah. No, I know. I've kind of had the same week. I don't know. It's been one of those weeks. It's when you think you're going to get a lull, then something happens. It's like, maybe I should do this. Oh, geez. Look at that. Something else again. Yeah. I had, uh, my plan all laid out for Monday morning and I still hadn't got to that. It just, you know, how those days go, the whole thing. Usually, like the week before, Monday was terrible, and then this week, you know, Sunday night, I dread Monday mornings, I don't have a plan, because it's usually a gong show, and it was actually smooth, and then everything kind of waited for today, I guess, so. Okay, well at least you had a good Monday. Yeah. I'm still trying to recover from Monday. Playing catch up. Is it Tuesday today? Yeah, I know. It's only Tuesday. I know. I get together with my girls every Thursday for dinner and I was talking to one of them this afternoon. I was like, ah, I'll see you tomorrow. She's like, no, it's only Tuesday, dad. I'm like, oh man, really? It's only Tuesday? Geez. Yep, fun times. Yeah, the season is upon us. If anybody else, uh, wants to hop in here and speak, just, uh, request there at the bottom, yep. And then, uh, we should be joined by Seth. Far as I know, he texted me earlier. Yep. Big shooter. I don't know. It's so funny. That's how I got him programmed in my phone. So every time he texts me or calls, I love it. I'm actually trying to do some invoices right now. It's the only chance I get to do it. From work or side work? From work. Okay. Yep. I don't, I don't want to do it right now, but it's one of those things. You heard from Mike Rollins? Oh, almost daily. Okay. Yeah. Are you doing okay? Yeah. Trying to figure out the work life balance now that he's a dad. Yeah, good luck, Mike. Good luck with that. That's what we're all still trying to figure out. Yeah, I talked to him, I don't know, it's been a few weeks ago. We're going to have him up here to speak at the annual conference for the Georgia chapter. And he's going to be super, um, talking to superintendents, which I'm really excited about. I think it's awesome. Because I don't think there's that many superintendents that Understand what he'll be talking about, not to that level anyway. And it was actually, it was actually a superintendent. He's the chair for our educational group here in Georgia this year. And he attended Mike's class in Orlando and he's the one that recommended it. So this would be great for all superintendents. It was really eye opening. Regardless of whatever, whatever grinder you use, just some of the things and gets you thinking and processes you can use and just even after doing it for 20 years, trying new things, learning new things and I tell you the coolest thing of having like all my cutting units dialed in all sets matching diameters. It's just like, when I take a cutting unit off the ground, I put the next 1 on, I reset it back to 0. Boom. The setup's so simple and the same every time. Just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, right? Right. Um, now, now if I could just get all the interruptions out of the way. Ha ha ha. Right? Yeah, I'm waiting for somebody to come up with a machine that does away with all the interruptions. It's like, uh, how many cutting units did you do today? Three? And it's like, uh. You could do three and then, you know, in an hour if there was never any interruptions. Well yeah, I had a superintendent one time, he uh, messaged me. And I didn't know the superintendent that well, but he said, How long should it take to grind a triplex? I'm like, I'm not answering. I have no idea how long it takes to grind a triplex. Cause I don't know all the circumstances. Yeah. How many interruptions did the guy have? How many bolts broke while he was working on it? You know, I mean, not, not a fair question. Yeah. How are the wheel bearings? How is this? What's the diameter like? Are the roller bearings okay? Has the bed knife ever been removed? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, there's a ton of things. And I'm replacing some reels on a triplex right now, and I'm averaging one a day and I'm averaging two broken bolts for the frames. And I mean, the, I don't know, on the DPA cutting units, I'm sure you're familiar, the ones that hold the grass shield on and the little plastic back plate. I've not had good luck removing those. In what respect. Well, they're, they break off all the little bolts, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. It's like quarter or 20 and I think it's a self, uh, threading screw. Yeah. Yeah. They even use the self threading on the cutoff bar adjustment on some and it's like, Oh my God. And. Like I like how they have the honeycomb for the rigidity of the cutting unit, but it also my ocd hates it because all the crap sticks in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's terrible operators never wash it out and it's like all corroded from clippings and wet and Yeah Seth can I say anything yet? What's up, buddy? I don't know. I was gonna invite him to speak but It's not letting me for some reason. I don't know. Jerry. Jerry. Uh, let's see. I got a request. Let's see who it is. Yep. There's Seth. I'll invite Jerry to speak to you. See if we can get him on here. What's up, Seth? Hey. Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. Yeah. What up, baby? How's it going? How's the, uh, how's the open? Yeah, I mean the championship. Yeah, one of those big tournaments. Yeah, it's sweet. And walking, uh, walking down 16th fairway right now. Awesome. Sweet. How dialed in is the course? It's, it's dialed. I mean, it's, I've seen a lot of good courses and I mean, I don't know. It's a different level. It's uh, it's impressive. I mean this whole property is impressive. Is that the first time you've been there? Yeah. So I've worked with Phil for five years and I've always heard about it so I'm finally getting a chance to see it. And that's where he came from? Yep. Awesome. Very cool. I'm living up to the uh... The height, I would say. And do they trailer their greens mowers? They do not. Well, So, yes and no. Okay. This evening they did not. Uh, in the mornings we get here, we begin here at 3. 30. And we'll trailer the greens out, the greens mowers out for the operators. And drop them off. They walk out to their grand where I walked everywhere pretty much same deal gotcha. That's cool Yeah, I don't I thought I don't know I thought you'd change your design for Turning boards when I first saw that Kevin. Yeah, whatever Kevin. Hey pick up. Yeah pick on us Southern boys. Yeah, I know this place. It's cool. It's my first major I've been a part of. It's been fun. We got nine guys in the shop. Wow. Which is cool. Yeah, yeah. Ron. Ron, the uh, what's his name? The awesome job. Ron. He brings her about as pure, as pure as I've ever seen. Is it bent? Yep. Okay. Yep. Very cool. Yeah. Yeah, you gonna, you gonna talk to Ron about being on the podcast? Since you won't come on. You gotta start recruiting. Uh, for me, I'll try, I'll try to recruit for you. All right. I appreciate that. Get him, get him in the WhatsApp group too. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Very cool. You up there till Sunday? Monday. Okay. Nice. I've gotten about four hours of sleep in the last three days. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. It's out of control. Who's RV is that you were in? Uh, that's Tom White's RV. It's relaxing. It's pretty sweet. Yeah, it's nice. Nice to go in there. Put your feet up. It's worth more than my house. Right. No, I doubt that. You live in Canada. Yeah, that's true. What have you guys been up to? We were just talking about, uh, how rough of a week it's been and it's only Tuesday. It seems like Thursday. There's one little thing after another guy used to work with me. He called them ankle biters, you know, just little things. Yeah. Yeah. Fouled plug on a, on a fly mow. I've had my fair share of those this summer. Yeah. It's uh, it's been. Yeah, I know. Summer's not even here and Kevin's already crying. He's ready for winter time. Yeah, I'm ready for November. That's awful early to be saying that. I'm ready to shut it down. Our season's so short, it's like they gotta cram in 12 months. It's just, ugh. I'm on it over. Nah, I get it. Are you guys open, Kevin? Oh yeah. Both courses, well, all three courses are open, but uh, we finally have some dry weather. It's so funny, it was so wet and rained all the time. And then after a week of warm weather, hand water and greens, it's like, oh my God. Can't win. How do y'all have water drains? Have water drain? Do y'all have a, y'all have. Hose reel in a car, trailer. They just kids throw the hoses in the back of a gator and drag them out. I haven't got that far to be, love it to be more efficient, but it's a bit of a gong show. Gotcha. Yeah, I just built my first hose trailer. Bought a trailer from Northern Tool for 350 bucks and mounted an electric hose reel on it. And so far so good. They've only used it a couple times, but we don't have ins and outs on our sprinkler on the greens. So we're hand watering green so we can keep our approaches nice and dry. And we tried it in a, I had a hose reel in a cart, but they didn't really like that for whatever reason they ended up needing the cart. So they took the reel out and we never put it back in. It's kind of how that went down. I don't want Chris or Jerry. What y'all got going on? Well, it's just a crazy. Today was a crazy day. Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Did you, did you buy a lottery ticket? Brother, holy cow, the steering cylinder where it cracked right at the weld on the non, like on the non shaft side. And, uh, I welded that, pulled one from Toro and it's unknown, backordered and unknown when I'm going to get a 700 and some odd dollar steering cylinder. Yeah. So I decided to grind it and weld the crack. It was like a hairline crack. It sprayed my TV, my shop, everything. Oh no. Yeah, I deadheaded it to one side and all of a sudden you could hear it spray out like it was a sprayer. Damn. So I haven't cleaned it up yet. I just, I basically got it running so we can mow fairways and I said I'm going home. Nice, yeah. So. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that was that insert on that really bold. I mean, that was both fairway moors. We had no fairway moors up until I got those out. So other than that, I'm actually heading over to the, uh, PGA myself tomorrow as a spec taper, so I'm looking out the course. Oh, awesome. Very cool. Yeah. How far away are you from? Uh, I'm probably about. My house is probably about 10, 15 minutes. My course is about 20. Oh, wow. Okay. So yeah, you're right there. Yeah. I used to call on those guys when I was a set John Deere, and so I know Ron and the guys up there real well. I gotcha. Well, yeah, be, uh, be careful. Be on the lookout for big shooter. He'll be strutting around there. That's what he does. Shelton. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. So, Other than that, you know, I'll just fix them as they break top dressing started. So everything's staying sharp except the greens bar. Yeah, I totally, uh, get that. We top dress, uh, we're closed on Tuesday. So we top dress every Tuesday and we started end of February, the earliest we've ever started and the Bermuda grass greens didn't really not start growing until now, so I've been eating sand March and April and first part of May. I mean, it's terrible. How much of that do you just like, pick right back up again? I would say, I mean, when they're not growing, I would say 50%. We pick back up. I mean, it's, I don't know. It's a little bit out of control. More effective trying to piss up a rope. Well, exactly, and I know our director for agronomy, I mean, he's not on board with putting sand out and picking it up with the mower. But it's hard, you know, teaching the superintendent that when the director of agronomy is not there. So, that's some of the issues that, uh, we have to work through. And then we'll, uh, they'll want to start grooming. And they really like to verticut groomers. Which pulls up a lot more sand. Yeah, great. Yes, it's fun times. I'd be like, um, breaking the top cursor when the director of agronomy is away. It was funny that I don't, I'm trying to remember what the, the belt was loose on our, uh, pro pass and the assistant brings it up and he's like, I can't put any sand out, you know, I don't know what's going on with this thing. And I taught in the belt. I was like, I can't believe I just did that. I'll just create more work for myself. Not lose you. Well, one thing because of this wet year and being at a golf course that doesn't have, they don't allow any time to do any, um, cultural practices or maintenance that I kind of, believe it or not, wish they would talk to us a little more often. Because. You put all that work into cutting units just so it can cut a sponge. It's kind of like pissing up the rope again. Right, yeah, no, I understand that too. And I mean, I do understand top dressing and the benefits of top dressing. But don't use the mowers to pick up because you put too much out because the grass isn't growing. I just think it's... Wyatt, Wyatt knows all about that. Hey, Wyatt. Yeah, I don't, I saw that picture and I was really concerned and I thought their DOA used to be an equipment technician and I was, uh, kind of wondering why, why they did that. Anybody want to share any insight they have? Wyatt or Jerry, he might know. Jerry's busy flying a plane right now, and he just logged on Twitter just so he looks like he's in the group. All right, you got me to speak. All right, we got him out. Where are you flying today, Jerry? Actually, I'm not flying today, believe it or not. Oh, okay. I got a, I got a new yoke that I got to get set up, and I've been dying to do it, but just too busy to do it, and it's been sitting on my desk. I got to get after it this weekend. Hopefully y'all ain't busy down there. Just take a day off and set up your new yoke. Yeah, I wish I got a throttle quadrant. That's new too, but that's been in the closet for two months now. Nice. Hope it works. Yeah. Well, do you have any insight on why? Why I'm saying he jumped off? I guess why he picked up so much sand with his mowers. Now, I don't know what's the backstory, but I heard something about a pitcher. Yeah. I saw a picture on Twitter where they had a utility, it was a small utility vehicle, I think, um, full of sand that was collected from mowing greens. Yeah, I'm not sure. I am not sure, but I do know that, uh, sometimes I've been at places to where you all mentioned it, you put it out and then you pick it up and. That sounds pretty darn expensive, especially with trucking costs and it's like, okay, why don't you put a half as much out and then next week put half as much out again, instead of picking it up. I guess my question is. Yeah, try one more time. Okay. I can hear you. I just can't understand, understand. What about now? I've got a better look. I might be a little bit, probably a little bit better. I was just wondering if they're watering it in. Uh, we do water it in and we also apply a wetting agent and water it in. But when the grass doesn't grow, you know, We, uh, we lower 5, 000ths before we top dress, and then we take the secondary mower out the next day 5, 000ths higher just to dry and just cut grass only. You know, so say if we're at 115, we'll go out at 110, top dress, the next mower we'll go out at 120, but they'll be watered in that night. And then we'll lift the brushes. On, uh, we got the Toro Triflex, uh, brushes. We'll lift those for two days on, say, say we top dress Monday, so we'll go out there with the brushes on, down five, top dress, go out there with, we have a deer as our backup, and then five thousands higher, and then we go back to height of cut. On the Toro, but no brushes for two days and then we bring the brushes back for Friday through the weekend and that's something we've been doing. And yeah, we're picking up sand. I mean, it is what it is. I mean, it's the nature of it, right? Yeah. And I've heard different stories, people doing different things. You know, I don't know what the answer is. If I did, I wouldn't be sitting here. I know the super and I sit there and we see figure out how many ways to skin the cat still to get to 11s, right? And that's, I mean, we strive for 12 plus on a day. So, you know, I mean, we got high demands and yeah, we're. We're supposed to try and hit 11 to 12. We've been doing it probably the last two weeks. We've got a group that tees off at 10 30, 11 o'clock every day. And they tell us about it. If the greens aren't fast enough. So trying to minimize complaints, doing whatever we can do. Yeah. Our horticulturalist got asked if he could put out plastic flowers, you wouldn't have to do all the work. That was a good idea. Yeah, he just smiled and walked away. Oh, they'd probably smell good too. Oh yeah, they'd just go out there and, you know, put some, uh, what's that, Axe body spray? Oh yeah, yeah, there you go. Attract all the women. Mm hmm. Yep. I'm really surprised Mike Rollins hadn't jumped in here yet. It's, uh, a little concerning. I guess having a kid really changes you. But then the second one, they'll be, ah, it's okay. Right, yeah. Yeah, for y'all that have kids, the first kid, I remember driving home from the hospital thinking, I can't believe they let me leave with this thing. I don't know what to do with this. And then, yeah, you have the second kid, and you're like, eh, okay. Let's do it. You get like me, you get like me and you get the number 6, it's like old hat. Oh, I bet, golly, I couldn't imagine 6. Yep, yep. That's crazy. Crazy. Well, Hector keeps pumping them out. Hector, like, keeps pumping them out. He's gonna have a pheasant. He's already got a whole football team, I think. They're close to it. It's crazy. And I'm really surprised they had that many kids while they were on tour. I don't see how that happens. All right, then this is going to be a short space. I'll tell you one, one cool thing about being here and actually seeing this that shop since we're building something somewhat identical, this place is, I mean, this is an awesome shop. Tell us a little bit more, what makes it an awesome shop other than just big size. Uh, I mean it's wide open. I don't know. It's just massive. Doors everywhere. It's great. It's a great setup. How many lifts? Uh, so they got two, two motorcycle lifts and then two, um, golf lift GL 9s. Okay. The motorcycle lifts are the, the black ones with the extensions and yeah. Yeah. It's typical. Yeah. Typical. Oh, what's nice. What's nice to do is they're cold storage there. They got like roll up doors on the side and it's just, there was no walls and you just, it's open air and it's, it's awesome. And it, uh, the, uh, break room area is just, it's just nice. And, uh, they're on the backside. And of course, you actually have to come in from outside of the door. Yeah, I would love to see that. I have to put, put that on my list of places to go. Uh, they designed a really nice one there when they built it. It's, uh, you know, I tell people when they're looking to build a shop to go look at that, their wash area is real nice. They got a whole separate storage area just for the utility vehicles, the Gators, and they have all the hand tools in that section. And then the mowers, you know, you got the east and west mowers on the other side of the building and it's real nice. Very cool. Yeah, I saw I guess National Golf Links of America Their shop. It was pretty impressive Pine Valley was pretty impressive too, but I really like National Really good flow through there and the Equipment shop where the mechanics worked. I mean, it was huge and I think it had four doors so you could drive, you know, completely through a couple of lifts. Um, just plenty of space, which I think we all desire plenty of space. It's hard, uh, hard working in cramped quarters. And i've never met another mechanic that said oh my shop's too big I just don't think that could happen How's your shop coming along jerry You got concrete yet No, it's a little slow right now waiting on As always waiting on contractors The growth up here has just exploded And then now they're building a new they're building another new uh, hospital here in ely so I'm just wondering if some of that may have hurt. I'm not sure, but they're moving pretty quickly with, uh, groundwork for that hospital. All your concrete will be going over there. Probably. Yeah. Exactly. And of course, you know, there's already one there, but you know, we have to have competition. So we've got to build one across the street. Yeah. Healthcare's, uh, pretty big as bad as it kind of sucks around here. Big business. Anybody else, uh, want to hop on here? Say anything? You're, uh, more than welcome. Hey, one of your, uh, spaces a few, two ago, you guys were talking about some sweepers, the Baroness and the other one. Oh, yes. Yep. Yeah, so we have the Baroness, and I didn't get a chance to say anything when you were talking about it, but were you asking something about the float? Or why the back tires come up off the green a little bit I think you guys were talking about that. Did you ever get that answered or sorted out? Not me. I wasn't saying that because we got the hot suda and the back tires don't come off the ground Yeah, the baroness doesn't come off the ground, but you put that head into a float mode Or downpressure mode, and it just gives you a little bit more suction to the surface of the grain. Okay. Okay, I remember the Baroness people at show, they were talking about, uh, You know, it had the roller back there. And it gave you more of a roll, but I didn't. Like with ours, it's solely float. No downpressure. Gotcha. Yep. But, and we hadn't used it on picking cores up, but it works really good on driving range divots. Yeah. Yeah. How have you felt about the Baroness? Uh, just trial runs. We've, uh, just. We've only Ninja timed here over the winter, so we just picked up stuff from the Ninja Times, so we'll know here in three weeks we'll be put through its paces. Y'all do two verifications? Yes. Are y'all Tiff Eagle? Yep. Yeah, I thought so. I can't believe I remembered that. Yeah. Yeah, we just do the one 1st of July. Yeah. When I was in Sarasota, they did um, uh, it was 27 holes and. I think it averaged out to be almost five verifications from the beginning of May till the end of September. And so the superintendent closed nine holes. So we always had nine closed. Um, we had 14 days doing nine holes, everything, T's, greens, fairways, roughs. And then on the 15th day, that would open up and the next nine holes would shut down. So he just kept that rotation every week. Wow. As much as you can get in. I kept you busy, I assume. Yep. Job security. Job security. It just, it was tough though, cause you had a good 18 holes, but you'd always just had that pesty nine and sand on one side. But good thing is, is everything he had for equipment wise, it was always in threes. So it worked out fairly well. Oh, how often do y'all top dress greens in the season? Usually once a week. Yeah. Pretty lot. Depends. Yeah. Um, sometimes it's a medium, just depends what they're shooting for. Yeah. I heard, uh, it was one of the last times they went out, um, before the grass started growing, says we went even lighter than we did the week before. I'm like, these things are not growing. We're having, you know, temps in the forties Bermuda don't grow when you have temps in the forties. It just sits there. That is true. So yeah. But finally we got some growth they've juiced them up a little bit and Hopefully we're gonna get in our normal pattern now Well, what else is going on? I'm gonna try to I'm gonna try to bait Rollins into getting on Well, I called him. I called him out and he still ain't got on I got a bed knife to the left side of the bed knife is twice as thick as the right side Is that you think that's good to send it? I would definitely send it Yeah, yeah, and I know I know Mike Rollins would send it You know, I would I would think about doing something about it, but you know, Mike, he'll send it It works Hey, I'm a hop off real quick, I gotta FaceTime my family before they go to bed, so I'll be back All right. Have a good one, man. No, I'll be back on. I'm listening. I'll be back on. What's going on, Mike? Nothing. I just got yelled at because I'm being too loud. We just put the baby to bed. That's classic. Classic, Mike. Said that. Said that. Uh, Anne knew what she was getting into. Yeah. She, she, she knew what she was signing up for, that's for sure. Yeah. No, yeah, I'm doing well. I hope everybody's doing well. Uh, nah man. Happy to be back in the swing of things and already traveling. Um, yeah, man, just, uh, gonna be up in Ohio for the memorial. That'll be fun. And then, um, gonna take a big two or three week trip, gonna bring a family with me, so, um, it's gonna be a ton of fun, man. Awesome. You got, uh, a way to mount the baby seat in Grindzilla? We got, uh, we got Carl the wizard is going to be, uh, fabricating some kind of custom baby car seat mount in the, in Grindzilla so we can fit her in there. Ah, awesome. So cool. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be great. And then, uh, we'll hit the road and leave the dog here with Carl because the dog loves Carl more than he loves us anyway, so. Yeah, man, going to be able to hit the road, bring a family with me and go through, uh, what Pittsburgh, Ohio, Michigan, see Seth, uh, Mitch up there. And then actually see Hector to, uh, Hector Velasquez, then over in, uh, uh, Chicago and stuff like that. So it's going to be a nice big trip. Awesome. That'd be fun. When, when you headed out, uh, probably June, some point mid June, I think after the Memorial, I'll be up in Ohio for a week, uh, with Brian Laurent and all the boys up there, Chad Mark. And then. Uh, fly back home and get in the van and make my way north. Hopefully see, uh, old Kev out there, Taylor, or maybe they come west a little bit from Ontario, uh, over to Detroit. It'll be cool. Oh, yeah, yeah. I definitely should. If I can make it, that'd be awesome. He's going to drive right by my place and not even stop. Jerry always said that. Yeah, you're the red headed step child, Jerry. I know. I know. I'm going up to 75, Jerry. Don't worry. I won't be that close. They'll still be pretty close. Nah, you're going to go. You'll change at the last minute while I'm in bed. You'll leave at 3 in the morning and I'll look. Actually, that's a good point. I didn't think about it. If I do go to the Warrior Alliance, the Operation Double Eagle guys in Augusta, I will be going by you. I will throw a wah wah sizzly towards you as I go by. Yeah, I know. It's just me and Skip, you know. Yup. I still owe Skip a Yeti. Shit, I owe Kevin a Yeti too. They're both very butthurt about the Yeti that I got for JP. Oh, I see. I see. So JP's getting special treatment. There we go, I got Kev to speak. It's like, my otter box is doing fine, but you know, doesn't say anything on it. Oh boy. Gotta order more than two sets to get a Yeti, I guess. You gotta order 12 sets. 12. You haven't even given that guy a Yeti yet, either. Yeah, honestly, jokes aside, Orlando has the most sets. Literally, he's ordered 12 sets. He's the one I should be buying the Yeti for. That's funny. Good stuff. Hey, I'm gonna run, though. I love you guys. It's good to see everybody. Good to talk to everybody. Trent, love you, man. Oh, yeah. No, thanks, man. Of course, dude. Hopefully talk to you guys soon. Yeah. Call me anytime. You got my number. Hell yeah man. Alright. See you guys. Very cool. Yep, it is. I don't know. I just been doing the shop talk thing. I ain't really got anything prepared to talk about. Let's figure chatting and catching up was enough. Yep. I haven't done any paperwork. Shame, shame. Shame, shame. I'm working on task records. That's funny. That's funny. You ready to do a video, Jerry? You ready to do a video, Jerry? Uh, yeah, just gotta find the time. Just, as always, it's uh, only Tuesday and I wish it was Friday. And winter already, already, I mean, Kevin, I think before you got on, I was having that same conversation. I really thought today was Wednesday all day. Cause I think I've worked that much in the last two days, but three days worth of work in. It's just not even about work. It's just the, the, the products that you're getting from distributors of just, I mean, it's just unbelievable. The stuff that's not working. Um, You know, spray rig, two, two valves, actuator, valves opposite direction when you turn'em on right away. Oh, nice. That you have to figure out, I mean, it's just like, what's the luck? You know? Mm-hmm. and clutch clutches on 10, 20 ones not set right from the factory and Just crazy stuff. I don't How are the clutches on the 10 21 if they're set correctly? Do they last for a good while? Uh, when I got the first, uh, in 21, they were, we just got in, it turned them blue. So I got a, I tore them completely apart and got the distributor to get the parts sent to me to test it on the one. Um, but yeah, just too far apart and I'm not sure why they were so far apart. I think they were like 65, 000 apart, close to be 40, 40 or 45. Come on, Jerry, get you a Rolock. You can knock that blue off. Go to work, man. Yeah. And of course the disc is glazed over big time. Oh yeah, I'm sure. But if the, so how often, if it's set properly, how often do you have to adjust it? I got the first six right, and man, it's been a while. I mean, I think my guys check them every now and then through the work orders, but I haven't really heard them really adjusting anything. Okay, so they've been pretty good now that I say that I'll go to work tomorrow Right, that's the way that works and does it uh work like the old jakes Basically, all right. Yeah, I never had the old jacks. I don't know what it is Basically, you just got the it's two of them. You got the um off the engine you got that housing and then um that pressure plate And then the disc in the middle, then you got a pressure plate and a disc coming off the transmission side, and when you squeeze the cable in, it just pushes the one side over, and you're just trying to maintain that gap. The trick is, on the engine side, if you don't get that side right, you can push the end plate of the engine in. Oh, gotcha. Yep. Makes sense. That could be bad. Yeah, if you're not careful you could really cause some problems. Mm hmm You know and not even knowing any different. Yeah, I had a tech the other day ask me if, uh, I knew anything about those and the clutches and how they held up and all those things, but I didn't know Jack So that's why I'm asking. Well, the interesting thing is you can look at all the, if you go up on Torres site, I think there's 10, 12 Years out or models out that you can look at. None of them have the service manual download. So I had to get with my distributor to get a copy of it. Huh? That's interesting. So on the, yeah, on the, um, on the operator's manual, they tell you on the transmission side with the adjustment is supposed to be, but they don't tell you nothing on the engine side. So I had to get the service manual to find that out. Yeah, that's interesting. Cause Toro is usually pretty good about that stuff. Putting it out there so you can find it. Do you use Toro my turf at all for anything? No, I, no, I, last time I used that when I was down in Sarasota. Yeah. I was on the beta team for that second one and just trying to get the engineer that, you know, Hey, you really need to kind of go this direction. And they just, he didn't want to go that direction. Um, I'm not sure what it's like now, but, um, just a lot of problems about what was the beast six years ago, seven years ago now. The first version wasn't too bad, um, just a lot of people liked the first version better than the second version, but again, I didn't have the second one long enough to... Deal with I just missed the hour meters where the machine drives past the shop auto updates the hours. Just I missed that Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I I think jamie's working on some stuff like that. I know he's he's thinking about it Yeah, I think he's got some type of an hour meter system. Um, but I haven't dove into that just yet I'm gonna wait for winter to dive into it and see what it's about what he's got. Yeah, I don't we work with fairway iq And trying to get their system to integrate with Task Tracker and they never delivered. You never delivered? No, they uh, we went through two different GPS sensors, two different key fobs. And so the way it was supposed to work is the employee would have a key fob. And it would attach them to a piece of equipment, whatever piece of equipment they were on. But what, what would end up happening is one key fob would attach to every piece of equipment that he was close to and nobody else could attach to it. And even like, um, One of the assistants, if he had a key fob and he's driving around in his car and he pulls up to a mower to talk to the person about whatever, it would attach to the mower and say he's on it. So they never could get it to work. So I don't. And then the way their algorithm was for tracking hours, it didn't work either. Hmm. Because it was, it only track the hours when the machine was moving. Oh, wow. Okay. But the other thing with the GPS sensor, the machine could set in the parking lot and move all day long, short distances. So it was like, it was constantly moving because it was, you know, loose signal or whatever. I don't know. So I don't, I don't think that, uh, they're going to get anything worked out. It would have been really cool if they could. I was with a turf profit that are using Canada. If the operator says, uh, so and so is cutting rough on this mower and he starts the task, and if he has. Jack uses Toro Groundsmaster number R11, and he used it from 5. 30 till 11 a. m. Then it just automatically, he's done that job for that amount of time, and then it'll cue those hours to the piece of equipment. Now I can get updates like at 50 hours, say. And I can check it and it might, it might not be exact, but at least it's pretty close. Right. Right, right, right. Right, right, right. And that's the way task track is doing theirs. Um, to so, but it's basically whatever we say. We say it takes 4 hours to mow fairways. So we assign fairway mower number 1 and it adds 4 hours. To that fairway mower. And I mean, it was pretty close and then we just update it when we bring the machine in and look at the hour meter. What are you doing, uh, Jerry on your hours? We just, uh, we, I kind of walked through the fleet, um, once a week and then one of my other guys walks through and he just scans the QR code and updates the days that he's looking at them in the morning. Yeah. Okay. And then, uh, sometimes I'll just. Depends where I'm at, just take a notepad out and write them down and then go on the computer and then just go into the hour update on all that file and just go right down the list and it's pretty quick that way as well. Gotcha. Yep. That's cool. But I try to like all the greens mowers, how I have everything set with either on demand or on, um, on service for scheduling. Um, I'm having them update the hour so I can track, like say they're. We mow greens tomorrow. So when that mower comes in, they scan the ticket or the QR code And that will pull up whatever Work orders are assigned and then they're updating those hours right then there so a lot of the walk mowers and triplex Very bars get updated within two days Right, and that's how we usually once a week Stuff like that. Yeah, we just let the other stuff go, to be honest. We won't worry about it whenever it comes to the shop, because it will come to the shop or something. At some point, yeah. Always something. So, uh, we, I have just ran into that issue myself with Task Tracker, where we'll assign greens mowers carts. At the same time, we'll assign the greens mower itself. Let's say it takes four hours, three hours to mow it. Then it's going to add four hours in Task Tracker. For the cart, but the cart doesn't get the four hours on there. Our mechanic said that he can go in there and add, okay, if the greens mower, or if they're taking the car out to mow greens, it's going to be an hour. Uh, I don't know if that, uh, I, I haven't dove into it that deeply for the equipment side, but I don't know if that's kind of what you guys were talking about here. I believe there is a setting in there where, um, you can average or you can give a percentage of so if it took um, in your scenario if it takes four hours to mow greens and the carts with it you can have the cart at 25 percent efficiency and that should reduce the hours and I don't remember Jerry meant no but I don't remember exactly where you go to change that setting but You should be able to. Yeah, I don't remember either, but I can find out and let you know, Ty. Uh, quick question. I had a buddy ask me today about a Jake 405. Um, Well, he's trying to grind the reels, but he can't find, uh, a grinder for the pulley to get the drive assembly. Because it's a flat piece instead of a gear shape, that'll spin to grind it. Have you guys seen that before, or know anything about that? Crickets. Bunch of crickets. I don't, I've never, uh, ground, uh, whatever 4 0 something another that you were naming. Um, I have made I don't know how many different adapters over the years to, to drive something. So, I, I would think one could... Fabricate something to drive the reel. Yeah, he's doing a new build. Just got the new Foley grinders and all that. I don't think his mechanics is, um, crafty. Um, but yeah, he's, he's been having difficulty with it and I forget the Foley guy he talked to Patrick maybe. I don't know. Um, yeah, so he can't grind it. Hmm. Interesting. How old is the mower? Any idea? It's old. Okay. Yeah, it's old. Jacob, some fairway units. Uh, yeah, he said 405. 405. Okay. Yeah, I don't, I'm not familiar with the 405. Might not be as familiar with it, but can he take the weight off the other end and maybe there's something to drive? Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point, Kevin. Sometimes those big reels, they have like a stub sticking out of them and you might, might have like a fricking 9 16 socket head on it. Mm hmm. I don't remember what it was. I was a California trimmer or something I was grinding, and I ended up taking a piece of heater hose and sticking it over a shaft. and a hose clamp and driving it that way. I mean, you can come up with all kinds of different ideas to get a reel to spin. I'm not saying that was ideal, but it worked and it was a California trimmer. So they're not too accurate out of the box. Does anybody else grind any homeowner versions like true cuts or McLean's? I used to do McLean's all the time in Texas. On a Bernhardt? On a Bernhardt. No, on a Foley. Okay. Okay. I did an Allet Mower, A L L E T T, from Europe. Did it last year. What was something else? Those are always for on after. Getting used to, uh, what we do with precision cutting units. And then you get something like that. Wow. Wow. The frickin the reel and the bed knife were an assembly like a cartridge. You'd slide into the traction unit. So Buddy had like a cartridge with a, what was it, like a 6 blade and then an 11 blade for different heights. I couldn't even, I couldn't chain it down to grind it because, you know, they're like 10. So, it would distort the mower even, even those little walk ones, you could never like, clamp them down or anything on even on a burn hard, because they're like, fricking just thin. It's like, why can't you sharpen this? Like, I'm just going to back lap it. And you're probably pretty good. Those old stuff. Have you guys, uh, remember the V reel? I never actually, I do remember it. I never experienced one. Yeah, from Bush hog. Well, wouldn't it, um, Um, Don cotton. No, I don't think so. I think it was, I think it was, um, from Bush hog. Cause I think they had a special grinder that you had to buy to grind the real. Cause the V everything went to the center. So you had the helix meeting to the middle and you can say all the wells that they have to grind down. And then the bed knife was spring loaded to the real. I'm pretty sure it was Don cotton that come up with that idea and he sold it. Uh, Bush, I'm pretty sure. Um, because I remember talking about it. Um, I was thoroughly impressed with it. It just seemed like it was very expensive for what it was. And yeah, if you got to have a special grinder to grind it, that's kind of. Yeah. Backing up a little bit. I did use a Bush hog grinder back in the day, had a dealer, a boner dealership. I was at, that was something else. I wonder, that was probably a Don Cotton invention too. Cause I think he had a grinder. Um, yeah what, did it grind almost opposite of the way we grind now? Well it was one grinder all in one so you'd have to, you pivoted the head and ground the reels first and then you pivoted the head. Back and mountain bed bears in and ground them. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was Don Cotton coming up with some of that stuff. He has some clever ideas I'm about ready to call it a night if y'all are We've been going an hour. I appreciate everybody being here And we're going to continue to do this on the third Tuesday of the month, 7 p. m. Eastern. I think I got that confused when I sent that out. I think I put 6 p. m., but I was planning on 7. So thank y'all for being here and we'll talk to you soon. Thanks, Trent. Good night, everyone.