I know Seth is in the car right now, trying to get home, stuck in traffic. How about you, Scott? You want to hop in here? You hear me? Okay, can you hear me now? Yep, I can hear you. All right. How are you doing today? I'm doing quite well. How about yourself? Well, pretty good, pretty good. Yeah. Yep. Well, ain't been home long, but yeah, I'm right there with you, my man. It's been a long day for sure. I'm not going to lie about that. Um, especially after a week of volunteering at Eastlake. Yeah. Tell us about that. Oh, dude, it was, uh, sorry. My girlfriend's watching clips. Um, um, It was probably hands down the best experience I've ever had in my life, to be quite frank with you. Yeah, very cool. Yeah, I definitely would do it again, um, and definitely try to do it at other places too. I can see how, um, you know, it would definitely be beneficial to go to different, like, tournaments. And not just, like, keep going back to the same one over and over again, but, um. I will definitely go back to that one for sure. Oh yeah, no, it's, it's a lot of fun. Okay, Chris and Seth are in here to as speakers if they got anything they want to share Yeah, hopefully we'll get some more more people to hop on and then start talking about Considerations for, you know, I will say what was really cool though, is that, uh, Tommy Ritchie was there. Um, and I got to talk to him for a good while. And well, let, let me stop you right there. If you, if anybody knows Tommy Ritchie, you don't have any choice, but to listen to Tommy and don't get it wrong. I love Tommy. He's a good dude, but he can talk your ear off. Yes, but it, but it was, you know, it was good. I mean, I was talking his ear off too, so I guess it was, uh, not too bad, but it was nice to thank him for, like, telling that story about, you know, like the superintendent, like, or assistant superintendent, like, flipping the sprayer, and like, Wearing a seatbelt and stuff because I heard that story and like, I went back like immediately the next day and told my guys about it at the shop and like, I haven't seen either one of them not wearing their seatbelt, um, on any piece of equipment that has a seatbelt since then. And I just wanted to like personally thank him for that and say, it was cool because then he told all the other people that we were sitting around the same story and they're like. You know? Yeah, yeah. No, that's awesome. Oh, yeah. That's good stuff. Yeah, it was, uh, yeah. You know, fun stuff. Yeah. I got, I met up with Tommy and Mike Tuesday night. We went to Taco Mack around the corner from the course and Nice. Had dinner with them and, uh, it, it was a good time for sure, for sure. Mike was definitely working his tail off, so. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, I mean, that's the wild thing. I was like, These guys have been working like, 100 hour weeks or whatever for weeks. On end and then kept on doing it, you know? Mm-hmm. it's just a lot of, it's a wild how much effort goes into, you know, that you would never even think like just, just so 30 guys can go, you know, hit a white ball around, you know? Oh, I know. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred volunteers and probably 35 crew people and Yeah. Yeah. Nuts. Yeah. It's what it takes to put something like that on. It definitely is, but, Yeah, definitely cool to meet all the people from all over the world. That was, that was, uh, really neat. And talking to that guy about that, like, turf, uh, or terra rad or, um... Oh, yeah, were they there? Yeah, he did. The guy, uh, gosh, I have his card here. I can't remember his name off the top of my head. I should. Uh, Derek? Yes. Yes. I got to talk to him for like two or three hours and like, holy crap. That guy is like super, super, super smart. Um, he's got us ridiculously cool product. Um, and not just for golf, but just in general, I mean, the uses, I mean, it's got so many applications, so it was pretty cool just to sit down and like pick his brain and like, um, Yeah. You know, kind of, I don't know, just kind of talked to him about how he got started and all that good stuff, you know, so, yeah, it was really cool seeing some of the images that they put out and you can tell if a sprinkler heads not performing a hundred percent and like they were telling about one course. You know, if a sprinkler head has low water pressure, normally, you know, it doesn't obviously doesn't spray as far, but it'll leave these rings where it's really wet because it doesn't spray the water as wide either. Not just distance and all that was showing up on their data, which was so cool. It I think the coolest part about it is it's just like, you're already mowing fairways. Like, you're going to do that regardless. And if you can pull data while you're doing it, then that's just a win win, you know? I mean, if you can, you know, if you can afford to do it, you know, I guess. Yeah, yeah. And I think it is pretty steep. It's, uh, yeah, it was definitely not cheap, that's for sure. But, you know. Like I said, I can definitely, definitely see the benefits of that at like a really high level of golf course for sure. But. When, if you're having to pay for water, you know, your ROI would probably be a lot less. Oh, indeed. I mean, that's, that would be my thing. I mean, yeah, and like you can water just very specific areas if need be and completely not waste water. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely see more of a place for it, you know, out West where they do have a lot of water issues. That's true. Cause there isn't, I think isn't like Texas or something like that on the water restrictions and right now, I'm not sure about Texas. I know Arizona and the desert out there. They, they struggle all the time. Well, let's, let's talk about, uh, some shop stuff. Um, Jared and Chris and then Seth's on the road here. Um, what do y'all got, fellas? Maybe they're just listening. Hey, guys. Hey. Can you hear me? Am I on? Yeah, you're on. You're on. Live. Live and well? Yep. Live and well. So, we just put a new building up. And, I don't know, it probably doesn't... pertain to you guys as much, but we put a big cistern in our shop. I know you guys probably have like your irrigation and stuff tied in already, but we were on city water here and our water is so hard and our pressure always sucked. So we put a big cistern in and we put a big pump in that baby to be able to move some water and wash up equipment. And so that was pretty, yeah, I think that was a good. Plan on our end, but I'd need help with my grinding room. I need to figure out how to set that baby up I just got like a blend. Oh Well, I don't know that I want to Say too much about grinding room because I'm not a fan of a grinding room because you got to have a way to get the cutting units in and out of there and it's a separate room and obviously it depends on the grinder you have But if it's a, if it's a small room, the noise is even more, and maybe it's a smaller space if you want to evacuate some of the grinding dust and that kind of thing. Um, so I'm not necessarily the one to ask about a grinding room. And hopefully when Seth hops on here in a little bit, I know he has a grinding room. Maybe he can enlighten us on why everybody needs a grinding room. But... It's, uh, not one of my things of choice. I was mainly for dust purposes to try and keep the stuff contained and evacuated, you know, with an exhaust fan of some sort. Um, it was my main thing for it, but yeah, I can definitely understand like heat and getting it in and out and the noise and everything else. So, in our old building, we definitely had them out in the open, but we did, we had, Filings and stuff flying everywhere. You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, I know, I'm pretty sure it's Jet makes one and I'm sure there's a lot of other companies that make, uh, filtration systems that mount in the ceiling and they just suck air through there and they have, uh, big filters in them and you can swap those out. I've, uh, seen those a lot of times like in wood shops and that kind of stuff. I'm pretty sure somebody has one, um, and a grinder room somewhere. I don't remember where that was. And there's things are for, so were you at a place where you, you had a grinding room and you decided against it? No. Um, luckily for me, I never had a grinding room, but, and all my travels and going to all these different shops and seeing grinding rooms. And like when I worked for Jerry Pate, you know, that was the, the concern I heard at most places was, you know, the grinder room is cool, but it's a pain getting the cutting unit in and out of there, you know, whether you roll it in or, or whatever, but it kind of takes out the option of having an overhead hoist system to get your cutting units in and out of the room. And I guess you could use, you know, the forklift. Things whatever they're called, uh, like SIP cells and Mike wants me to buy his left Yeah The key thing is having the real grinder and I use a Table that I got from Harbor Freight So I bring that underneath the machine on the lift, lower it down, disconnect the cutting unit right there, then wheel it off, and it jacks up and jacks down, and I can, wheels right in, so I'm not picking up cutting units, and when I'm done, I can pick it up, slide it over the bench, jack it up to bench height, and roll it on. Okay. So that works pretty good. I used my old service cart doing that for a while, but then the service cart started, you know, bending. It was a cheapo. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. But then I saw I was in Harbor Freight picking up a toolbox one day, and I saw that when they used it to load up my truck, I saw the weight capacity was like three, 400, 500 pounds or something like that. And I turned around and bought that. Yeah, no, that's cool. And yeah, if you, if you can find a system that works for you, that's great. Yeah. I mean, just having a straight run in. To the real grinder is the key thing. I mean, nobody has the luxury hoist like you have, you know? Well, true, true. That's, uh, I'm very fortunate to have that. And that's not even in my main shop. So I'm only at that shop, maybe 10% of my time, probably even less than that, like 5% and I need to rearrange that because that shop also has a C in it. And, uh, oh, yeah, I know. So, yeah, so nice down there. And I worked at a dealership that had AC in the summertime. You got yelled at more for opening the door in the summer than you did the winter. Oh, I bet. I bet. Because the humidity down here in the south is, uh, something else. You guys try to have the grind somewhat close to like your, um, your lifts, like golf lift and stuff like that. Or do you feel you get too much stuff close together? You'd rather have it further away? Personally, I actually have it. The, I, I have it at the opposite end of my shop because I can close the doors and, you know, and turn on the fan and walk away, and I can still hear it, but it's not crazy loud. Yeah. And that's, that's my opinion too, you know, I mean the, you don't want too much stuff going on in one spot. One of the best. Setups I saw was at a lotion club and they basically had a bay dedicated to grinding and They had two real grinders two bed knife grinders. I mean, you know, it's Disney World over there and get I think they print their own money, like Seth does at Oakland Hills. But, uh, anyway, you could pull a whole fairway unit in that bay, take the reels off, get them in the grinders, and, uh, you know, they had a set up table where they were taking the cutting units apart and all that stuff, and that was, uh, definitely really nice. And my shop, the way it's laid out, I kind of got my lift on one end, and like Chris was saying, if I'm on a, Take reels off a fairway mower or whatever. I just pull it in close to the grinder and get all the reels off. Did that kind of answer your question, Jared? Input there. We're like I said, we kind of got a blank slate. We got. Everything in the shop, the new building, but we don't have stuff fastened to the ground or anything. And we're still kind of just moving things around and figuring out what's going to work and not going to work. So if it doesn't work, we can always start over, right? What the hell? Oh, well, yeah, no, that's true. And I know what I've done a lot over the years, um, when we're, you know, re replacing stuff, um, is just draw it to scale. Little squares, you know, to scale representing how much space it's going to take up and play around on a piece of paper and see what looks right and what fits. It's really simple to do and it saves you the time of actually moving equipment around. Right on. Yep. So where are you located at, Jared? I'm in Ohio, um, on the Ohio, Indiana state line. Um, but in the middle of state, north and south wise. So kind of between Dayton and Lima. Okay. If you draw, if you go like from Detroit down to Cincinnati and then from Columbus over to Indianapolis, we're right in the middle of all four of those cities. Okay, nice. Out in the middle. Middle of nowhere. Yeah. That's the way I like it. If any of your, these listeners here want to hop on, just, uh, request to speak and I'll approve you if I can. And we'll keep talking about shop considerations. What, what are some, uh, must haves in any shop? Whoever wants to go first. I kind of like my tire bead blaster. Yep. Do you have any, uh, certain brand that you prefer the cheetah or you know, I don't even know what it is. Okay. I just went to the top and they had one there and picked it up. And I can't believe I didn't have one prior to about a year ago. I should have bought one a long time ago. Oh yeah, for sure. I made one out of, uh, you know, just, uh, whatever, 20 gallon air tank and put an inch and a half, uh, welded an inch and a half coupling on it and screwed a piece of pop in there and inch and a half ball valve. And it's heavy, but it works good. What else y'all got must haves? Obviously equipment lift is a must have. How many people's got a tire machine like a real tire machine? I'll take that zero. Okay. I have an old coach. I don't know what it is. It's a side to side thing. And it's a pain in the butt. I need to get a newer upright deal. I don't know what you call them, but you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I remember at Eastlake, they used to have an old coat and I don't even know if they used it. It was, you know, an antique and I don't, I don't think that most of, uh, our wheels would fit on it that well. Now we can do truck and trailer tires, but smaller stuff doesn't work on there. Yeah, that's what I heard about those. And I know John Borsos, he's... Yeah, one that he really likes for our industry. I've seen him, uh, post in the WhatsApp group and stuff about it. What size it was. Yeah. I was over at his place and I saw it. He's got a coach. It's nice. Oh, okay. He was showing it. Awesome. Showing it to me that day. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool. Of course, he did some of his own fab work to it to make it his own. Well, of course. That's, that's what we all gotta do. Gotta make it our own. I would say, uh, I don't know if it's a tool, but it must have in a shop as a tire rack. Um, just makes it easier. I actually created a whole corner with the tire changing area, putting the tires right above it and just got some angle iron and welded it myself and, uh, saves a lot of trouble. And I wrote on the ends of the tires, what equipment it went to. So I knew. Right away and they're already like summer on rims already ready to go for, you know, emergency flats. No, that's that's been a great idea Yeah, and it's never big enough either Well, no. Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking to put a third one up because I got more tires the one I have mounted Yeah, no, I understand that completely um I'll store my tires. We have a little shed outside And I just build it out of two by fours to hold all my tires, but it is a pain because you need a tire. You got to walk out there and get it. How about you, Justin King? What say you? I was just thinking, um, a label maker and a QR code printer. Oh yeah, that's a good one. That has, that has, um, helped me out quite a bit in the last year and a half or so. Um, I got the, I got the QR code printer that you recommended actually, and, um, it is awesome. Still kind of messing with QR codes, but, um, mainly right now with the, the, the ones that you can, um, make through task tracker and, um, but actually our, uh, finance department was pretty impressed with that. They can use it. For like asset IDs and stuff like that. So it's a, it's a win for everyone. Oh, that's awesome. So it's the, the brother, the, I don't remember what it's called, but yeah. Yeah. I can't remember the model. Use the one that you recommended like a one inch tape. Yeah, it prints one inch labels. Um, I'll have to, I'll have to take a picture of it tomorrow. Um, That's right. Yours. Maybe I didn't get the one that you recommended. That's all good. Yeah, the one I got was kind of pricey, but I've been really happy with it. And like Chad Braun had mentioned, it's worth getting the brother tape, in my opinion. Yes. Some of the Amazon extra cheap tape for those that doesn't hold up very well. No, it doesn't hold up and it's hard to peel back. We got one for, um, at home when my daughter was going to daycare, we bought a label maker and, um, I cheaped out and bought the Amazon labels and Um, I'm also too cheap to not use them and get the brother labels. So I'm just cursing every time I have to put labels on bottles. Uh, yeah, yeah. Yep. I don't, I don't miss those days. I do miss when my kids were younger, but I don't, I don't miss those days. Well, luckily at least for a little while, they're, they're over for us. We were able to pull her for at least the next year and In this economy, those daycare, I mean, it's like college tuition. I don't know. It's, it's crazy, but, but yeah, I would say that that's the first thing that popped into my mind was the label maker. No, that's a really good one. Beyond the, um, uh, Bead blaster as well. That was a good one that, that, that is convincing. Well, the first shop I was at, it took a little bit of convincing, but once, once the superintendent saw how much time I was saving on, uh, especially, I don't know if anyone else has issues with them. Those, uh, Gator tires are just impossible to set for me anyway. Yeah. Um, and a lot of times when you get the tires, they're sandwiched. Yeah, that don't help either. No. And some, sometimes, um, well, here's a, here's a good question. What do you do if the bead blaster doesn't work? Do you bring out the ratchet straps or is there another method? I don't, I mean, I have used ratchet straps before. I'm not a fan. I think it is dangerous using those. Um, but I would be lying if I said I'd never use one. Uh, yeah, I don't, I mean, I try to get it, you know, seated on one side the best I can and then use the, the bead blaster on the other. Um, uh, one time, um, this was years ago, but, um, and I was still a system mechanic and the guy that I was working with, he said, oh, we're going to pack it full of grease. So we did, we packed the rim full of grease and it worked, but it blew grease everywhere when it did seat. Um, we didn't even have a bead blaster back in those days. Yeah, but that made a mess. Yeah, no, that was a mess. Oh man. What I do is, um, you know, you always had that longer side on the rim. I'll take that, put it on the bottom and I'll actually with the tire on it and soap it. I'll drop it on the ground, let the tire slide through that, and then you'd the bead blaster, and that'll, and I do the bead blaster on the opposite side of the valve stem. And then when I hit it, whatever's left there, usually I can get it from there. And if all else fails, when they're really sandwiched, I do the old carb cleaner, um, lighter trick. Right, right. Um. The other thing I've done too, I'm thinking about it now, is set the rim on a bucket to get it off the ground. Cause sometimes the way, you know, the tire's sticking over, that'll uh, let some air escape that way. And I've had success doing that. So on the, the carb cleaner, or ether, how, how long do you wait? And how much do you spray? So, I don't know if you saw that a while ago, I had that video up and then I pulled it down because of, uh, some people asked me to. And, um, uh, but what I usually do is, um, like say I was doing, uh, golf cart tires at the, at my second course I work at. And I'll hit like maybe one, two, three, four quick blasts around in four different spots. I'll just let it sit for a second. And then I'll sit there with the carb cleaner with like a long lighter and standing back and kind of shoot it like a flamethrower into it. And, uh, I'm about 80% successful on the first try. Um, it just takes a feel. I like using carb cleaner versus ether. Uh, personally, because I think ether could be a little too explosive, but um, but yeah, and then you got to be there right there with the um, air hose because as it cools, it's going to contract and may pull it back off. Uh, right, right, right, right. That makes sense. But I usually, I usually do that when it's on the stand, not on the ground. So kind of like what you're saying with the bucket. I'll do that. A bead blaster I do on the ground. I made a mistake and did that up on the stand and it came back and got me in the chin. Oh, wow. Yeah. When I do the bead blaster, I'm putting the tank right into my gut or right at my waist and I'm kind of right up against it and just slam it that way and obviously using earplugs because it is loud. Yeah, it is loud. Yeah, that's something. That's an attention getter. Oh, yeah. Either way, it wakes everybody up in the shop. Yeah, for sure. And where I'm at, it catches a couple of golfers if they're on the fairway. Oh, nice. Yeah, right in their backswing. Yeah, I never really look out the door, but I've heard a couple of hey yous a couple of times. Yeah, they'll get over it. I would say another must have is a large screen TV hooked up to a computer or laptop above your workbench. That's been huge for me. Yeah, I would agree with that too, 100%. Um, that's, that's a game changer. And looking at electrical schematics or hydraulic schematics, anything like that on a big screen, it is so, so nice. I put my work order on it too. When, uh, so, the guys were, uh, working on, uh, tore a machine apart the other day, and they're both sick now, and I'm putting it back together, so I got the parts breakdown up on the big screen, and it's right next to our lift, so I can just glance over there and say, okay, yeah, this goes here, that goes there, um, makes it pretty handy. Yeah, my, my superintendent was kind of iffy about it, and then one day I had to do some hydraulic hoses on a fairway mower, and I took pictures of it before I took it apart. To just replace worn out hoses and then I had the pictures up there and I could see the exact routing and he walked by and stops and he goes, all right, I get it now. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Makes a lot of sense. That's the best schematic is take a picture before you tear it down. Very true. Yeah, on the day of cell phones, I guess that's a really valuable tool to have around the shop. You got your camera and your notepad and. Force recorder. Well, and I use Google, so I take a picture with my phone and I got a Google phone that uploads onto the cloud and boom, I can bring it right up, go into the website and bring it right up. Yeah, no, that's nice. Great idea. Do you make it home, Seth? I did that on that traffic. Yeah, it's, it's tough. Outside of Detroit, isn't it? Detroit is bad traffic. Hey, Atlanta though. Yeah. There's not many of this bad as a land. I don't think what I miss, um, not too much. Well, I am recording this so you can play it back and hear all of it. But we were talking about B blaster, big screen TV in the shop. Tire machine. What else? What am I missing fellas? Maybe I covered it all. This is, this is actually, this is a good one. Cause I'm actually, uh, in the process of designing and, uh, we break ground in about a month on our new shop. So. So is the shop already planned then I'm assuming? Uh, yeah. The layout and everything, you know, your bays and how many lifts you're going to have and where all that stuff's going? We've done like the main structure and kind of getting all the FF& E in there and figuring out where all that stuff's going. Are you going to have a grinding room? I am. It's about 550 square feet, air conditioned, uh, ventilation, makeup, air. Yeah, that was one thing that was brought up. What do you do for the ventilation? So it'll be, it'll be its own, uh, ventilation. Um, straight out to the outside of the building. How does that work? Basically. Um, so the whole shop area is going to be air conditioned. On it's own, own unit, and it's own block, um, And, they're figuring out right now, with, uh, Negative pressure, positive pressure, all that stuff, how that, how that's actually gonna work. We've got a company called IMEG, and they're, you know, they design all sorts of stuff. I mean, they're, it's a pretty crazy company, but. They, uh, they do all that. They figure out all that stuff and how to, we basically tell them what we want and they figure out how, how to make it work. That's the kind of companies I like. It hurts my problem. Make it work. Yeah. And there it's, it's pretty cool to work with these people. And, uh, you know, I, I caught you guys saying you don't like grinding rooms because you got to get the real man out. And the one thing that I wanted was. It's a separate grinding room with, with some really good ventilation for the main reason of keeping the noise down from the rest of the shop and, um, but the access to the grinding room will be an eight foot by eight foot sliding barn door style door. Okay. So you're not having a door swing in or swing out to take up room. It's going to sit flush against the wall and You know, eight foots, plenty of room in my book to get reels in and out. And the space, the space outside of that grinding room is actually big enough. And I, and I heard you do, I heard what you said about, uh, drawing things to scale. And I can tell you a story about that. Um, but to scale, it's big enough to where I can put four ferry mowers in front of the grinding room. And be able to just slide those into the grinding room. Okay. It's big enough. It's big enough and we're putting enough electricity right now. We only have one set of grinders, but the idea is to have eventually two sets of grinders. So the room is big enough. We'll have enough electricity, whatever we need to accommodate those. That second set of grinders down the road. Oh yeah. Yeah. No, that's awesome. And I'd like the barn door idea too. Because that was, and like Chris was saying, you know, an eight foot door or whatever, or two double doors. And yeah, I mean, the bigger that opening is the better, but I've seen some, you know, that has a three oh door and you're like, how do you get cutting units in here? And it's got a threshold on it that you're rolling over with cutting, you know, I don't know. There's definitely a lot of bad designs out there too. Um, another thing that you just made me think of. Um, and you know, my shop was built in 88 and whoever did the electrical plan, um, part of it is good. Some of it not so good. Basically, my whole shop is on one circuit that sucks. Um, but our welding circuit runs all the way to the back of the shop next to a bay door where equipment storage is. And then I got a welding outlet. Close to the front of the shop, one in the middle of the shop and two in my welding area, which was a really good idea. And that's worked out great where you can, you know, no matter what you're working on, you can get the welder to it. Yeah. And that's, that's one thing I, I talked with the electrician, uh, design team about the electrical engineers was. Basically, at every workbench that I'm going to have, I'm going to have a 220 outlet for a welder, and we have a, technically a designated area for welding, and there's going to be a welding curtain, but I want to be able to, if something's on the lift and I notice something broken, I want to be able to pull the welder over there and weld it there, versus take it off the lift, move it to the designated welding area, and then weld it up there. Well, right, yeah, yeah. One, like the one in my equipment storage at the back of the shop. Uh, I used it and rebuilt a bucket for a skid steer. And then that way I didn't tie up my whole shop while I was doing that. You know, I tied up equipment storage, but who cares about them? Right. That was funny talking to the, uh, the plumber. Um, There's a there's a plumbing company that's going to be doing all the airlines and Plumbing is not just for toilets and faucets. It's actually for airlines. I learned that about two months ago. Okay Yeah, so what are they doing? All I did was All I did was basically give them the blueprints with a location about where I want to hose reel Or where I want to air drop, like at a bench, have the airline drop down from the ceiling. Um, and so all they, then they designed the whole plan behind that. You just circle on the plan where you, where you need air, where you're going to put a hose rail, and then they take care of the rest for you and figure all that stuff out for you. Oh, nice. Very cool. Yeah. What do you use air for? Right. Yeah. I was just thinking about that. That's what, that is what they asked me. They're like, we need to know what equipment you're operating with air so that we can figure out a pipe size for CFM ratings and all that stuff. And I was like, I was like, no, nothing. We're not, all we're doing is like blowing stuff off or like I got. You know, I've got a golf lift, one of those motorcycle lifts that runs off of the air. Mm hmm. But, I basically said, no, it's just for, like, hose, like, blowing stuff off, or, it's like we don't really use pneumatic tools anymore, I mean, it's all Milwaukee or, it's all battery stuff now, so, um, they were kind of, like, waiting on me to give them a whole list of equipment that's run off of the air, and I was like, no, like, nothing, nothing's run off the air. Yeah, I think they really changed a lot. I think they figured that out. That has all the electric tools. Do you have a electric charging station for all your battery powered stuff? Uh, yeah, I do currently. Yeah. I think I've got like six or seven chargers. Mm hmm. What about, um, Plenty for what I do. What about setting the building up for charging electric mowers when that happens? So, um, that's kind of a big thing because going forward with all these tournaments that we're hosting, you know, in the next, I think within the next five to eight years, I think every, every new piece of equipment you're going to be buying is going to be lithium. There's, there's going to be, I think there's going to be options, right? There's going to be the. Still the diesel power, but there's also going to be a lithium power option. Um, and eventually I think all that stuff will go away. So explaining that to these guys and being like, we need to outfit this building for the next five, you know, this is all big picture stuff, not next year stuff or two years down the road. It's all, it's all geared towards like five to 10, 15 years down the road. Um, when, when I'm hopefully not there, uh, But like, explaining to them that all this equipment is going electric, what happens when we're hosting a tournament, the women's open in 31 or the US Open in 34, we have a storm that comes through and knocks out all our power. Well now we can't charge our equipment, we can't maintain the golf course. So we need a way to charge the whole, the whole fleet of equipment. And that's generator power, right? So, but I think as of right now, I think what, what we're doing is we're getting the, the electrical, uh, components that we need to switch gear and the shop. And then when that stuff comes online, then we will run it from the switch gear to where we need to put chargers and stuff like that. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Instead of having to come back in five to ten years and run more power off of the road, the main power line that comes off the road to the building and rip up your, your asphalt or concrete, and have to run more power. Right, right. And again, I, I'm not smart. I, I've just, in the last, like, month and a half, I've kind of learned all this stuff and have been telling these guys about this stuff, so. It's my, uh, it's my. Verbiage is wrong. Please correct me. No, it's, yeah, it's all good. Do you have, uh, three phase there at your shop? I, I don't think we, I, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know if we're gonna go three phase or just single phase. I think everything I need is single phase, so I don't know what they're, I don't know how that works. Yeah, I don't, one of my shops, we got three phase in. The other one's just single phase. And... So, I've got a lathe, and it's three phase, so I had to get a phase converter, which turns single phase into three phase, and that's just a whole nother thing, but uh, you know, having the option of three phase, and like the shop that I do have three phase in, we got a three phase air compressor, and it's a Haas. Yeah. So that's the thing, I think we're, I think that they're going to have to run like two air compressors, um, for the shop because we have like a blow down, like our wash bay area where they wash, the guys wash off their equipment. We're going to have a, and this is all geared after Oak Hills maintenance facility, which is one of the best I've ever seen. Um, So they have a separate area where they go, they blow their equipment off with air, and then they go to the wash bay, wash the rest of it off to just kind of, to, to eliminate grass clippings going down the drain and clogging up your oil water separator or whatever. Right. Right. Well, I know at Augusta, they were doing the. Same thing basically or something very similar, but they were using like backpack blowers or little handheld blowers and blowing most of the grass off before they brought it back to the, the wash pad, which is a great idea. Yeah. We looked into a water recycling system, but after talking with the, um, kind of the engineers, this, the The uh, Oh man, my mind is fried. Um, It is Tuesday. Civil, Civil, Civil, after talking with like the civil engineers and stuff like that and the construction company, they were kind of like, Well, you don't have to have this system if you don't want it. We were like 10 4. Yeah We were putting it on there just because we thought maybe we'd have to have it with code and stuff like that But they were like no, you don't need this. You just need a oil separator Yeah, that's I mean if you don't have to have it Don't do it. That's my recommendation to anybody. Yeah. Oh, that's my recommendation too. Yeah. I mean, one, one course we don't have it. The other course we do, and it's a nightmare. And I've heard the same thing from, I don't know how many different people with all these different ones. I don't know that there's one that's really good and low maintenance. Not that I've heard of anyway. Um, the one they had at Sand Valley was kind of cool. It was just, uh, I don't remember. They had two or three septic tanks. And everything would go in there, settle out. You know, it had fill lines just like it would at a house or something. So the water gets out, all the heavy stuff stays there, and then they have it pumped out once a year. And I thought, Oh, that's cool. You know, didn't too bad of an idea. Uh, Trey, going back to the, the drawing everything to scale. So, what I did was get the plans for the building we were trying to mimic. And I measured the footprint of all the, every single piece of equipment we got from sod cutter to push mower. Uh, It's a fairway mower, rough mower, everything. Anything you could think of. Vicon tractor blower. Measured every piece of equipment. And cut it out to scale. Eighth inch scale. So I've got like a million of these pieces of paper. Uh, different colors. And laid it out. And we, it's, we, what we did is we call it our space justification study. To kind of educate the membership and to the board and stuff like that. To say, this building's 15, 000 square feet. It's not big enough to house the equipment we have currently, so we need to go bigger. In which, the place we were mimicking our shop from, we asked, you know, the best thing to do is ask questions, right? What would you change differently from your shop and what you have now? Um, you know, they said, they recommended go 5, 000 feet more, square feet more, so we did that showing them the size of everything and it's tight and that has no room for growth, um, because we never get less equipment, right? We always get more equipment. Uh, the, the, the, the more years out we go, we always get more equipment, so. Um, so being able to, to adjust that to where we can build a building the size we need for probably the next 10 years, maybe they have to put an addition on, uh, in 10 years or so, but you know, that was time consuming. It took me about seven days when I had downtime to cut all those pieces out, but it, it really worked really good. For us showing that we need something the size that we're getting. Yeah, no, that's a great way to, yeah, justify what you need. That's awesome. You know, I, I can post a picture of what I, what I've done. I mean, it's, it's crazy. I mean, the amount of time I've spent doing this with, with my boss and, and the nice thing about. Uh, all that is, you know, they're kind of like, what do you guys need? They're not telling us what we want or what they're not telling us what we need. We're telling them what we need and they listen to us. So that's been, that's, it's been awesome. Yeah. That is a really good thing going on there and doesn't have heard everywhere else. Yeah. I mean, I've heard a couple of guys local that have built new shops within the last couple of years. And They built a shop that was too small for what they currently have, so in turn that's more money later down the road to go in there and put an addition on for, you know, it's an investment of equipment sitting outside year round. I mean, I've got 2 million worth of stuff that sits outside year round, so we want to put all that stuff inside. Yeah. So what else? What else you need for a shop or what else you want to talk about here while we have a good crowd? That was directed to you, Seth. This is just all this like hits home because I've been just doing this for the last year, basically nonstop. Well, and this, uh, This topic was your idea for the Twitter space. So that was it. I can't hear. I can't remember it. Yeah, you told me you told me five or six weeks ago. Next, next Twitter space. I can barely remember if I just talked to you on Sunday. That's all good, man. That's all good. So any other cool things that you're planning in the shop that we need to know about? So I heard, uh, you know, the lift lifts are great. Um, I've got two currently and I'm just going to move those over to the new shop. Um, and then a new lift table. It's going to be recessed in the ground. And, uh, it's going to be a Southworth. It's custom made. Okay. It's going to be 7 foot by 10 foot. Awesome. And I did that so I can throw like 6 greens mowers up at a time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's awesome. Instead of, um, my current table lift is 2. So, just, again, getting more efficient and quicker at what we do is kind of the name of the game. I saw, I don't know what the dimensions were on this one, but it was a golf club of Georgia and I believe, uh, Crabapple, um, Capital City Crabapple has one too, because it's Don Landings idea, but it's a single cylinder hydraulic ram that comes up out of the ground recess table. I mean, it's a big table, but it has a baron on the top. You know, the table's a rectangle, and you can spin the table, and when you spin the table, it lines up with the grinders, and you just roll the reels right on the grinder, roll them back on the table. I don't know, it was a really cool setup they had. Yeah, so at Barnsley Gardens, that's how the shop was there. And I wasn't a mechanic there, so I didn't spend too much time in the shop. But, uh... It was on a single piston that came out of the ground and you could spin it. And when you spun it long ways, it lined right up to the grinder and just right on there. Awesome. So cool. Yeah. So Howard Horne was at golf club of Georgia and he went to Barnsley gardens and he was basically the grow in mechanic, if you will. And that was probably his doing. Because he stole that idea from Don Landon. That's one of the shops that I've always, like, referred back to. Because it was actually, it was small. But it was, like, set up really well. For what it, for what it was. That was another cool thing I'm just thinking about at Golf Club of Georgia. Their oil room. They had, uh, the waste oil. I mean, it didn't look good. necessarily, I guess, but you poured it into a sink and the sink had the drain for the sink went to a storage drum out just outside the building, just through the wall. But with a pretty good size sink, you know, you hang your funnels in there, all that kind of stuff. And it's all going into a containment. Yeah, that's a, that's a pretty sweet idea. Yeah. Um, I heard, I heard you guys talking about TV in the shop. So with John Deere, with their MTGs and, and, uh, on link and stuff like that, uh, being able to track equipment throughout the day, because basically everything's going to be GPS now. So the plan is to have like a, I'm going to call it the war board in the shop to where. Everything is live on that TV throughout the day and it's, I want it bigger the better in my opinion, um, probably like 80 inch. But what it's going to be is the property, the property outline and so we can keep divs on like where the ferry mowers are. How much longer till they're in the shop? How much longer do we have to check the greens mowers before the flare mowers start rolling in to where we need to start changing gears? um And then with the onlink or the ntgs and onlink is onlink is you know codes when codes pop up They'll be on the screen on my phone um to where I can Literally troubleshoot a problem before I get a call about that problem That's pretty slick Oh, I want to see that in action. What they're doing is, what Deere is doing with that technology is pretty crazy. I mean, we were at a training up here and we literally pulled up, uh, Pinehurst number two, and we were watching triplexes live at that moment, which direction they were mowing the greens. You see this little icon moving across the green. You can zoom in. And you see this icon just tracking across the green, turning around, tracking across the green. Very cool. So, a lot of my days spent wondering where equipment is and how, how much time do I have before something rolls in that I gotta check. So, having that ability to be able to pull it up on a map and look at it is, is gonna be pretty sweet. Yeah, yeah, no, that's super cool. And I guess that's gonna be on all deer equipment? Or it is already? Yep, so anything you order new is, it's got the, the, the capability, the NTG, uh, technology will come, you know, if you're getting a, a ferry mower this fall or the spring, it should have it on it. And then do you have to pay for that service to be able to see it on your big screen? No, I believe it's all, uh, it's all on a cloud and I think it's just comes with the, the, I think it's probably. You know, nothing's free in this world, so it's probably, uh, thrown into the price of the equipment or whatever. Yeah, that's what I was curious. Is it, did they bill it that way? Or, yeah, did you have a, you know, it's a thousand dollars a year to be able to do that? Right. So anything, I was told, anything with a battery can have it. Um, And there are ways to put it on a walk mower, I was told. Oh, okay. That's interesting. Yeah, it's crazy technology that these companies are coming out with these days. I mean, it's kind of streamlining our job, making it, I think, making it easier. I know some guys are scared about technology and stuff like that, but, you know, we're, we'll always have a job, uh, fixing things because things break, but. I think it's just going to make it easier and faster for us to diagnose. And it, you know, I was talking to my tech, my road tech, who's in Wadsworth, Ohio, four hours from, from us and, uh, asking him about it. And, um, he's like, yeah, it'll pop up on my phone. He's like, I will always be able to watch your equipment operate. I can pull up anything I want to see how everything see temperatures, see pressures. Um, From four hours away. Wow. That's and it'll ding me as soon as you get a if you get a trouble code then it'll ding me and then Next thing I'll do is probably call you Yeah, yeah. Well, I heard about this I guess years ago. I don't I mean it was probably early 2000s a buddy of mine They rented I don't know what tractor number, but it was a John Deere tractor, big ass tractor. And they were, uh, pulling a pan behind it and they got a call from the dealer. And the dealer was like, you got to turn the tractor off right now. It's got this code on it and you can't run it anymore. You know, and that was that long ago. So I can only imagine now how much better that probably is. Yeah. I mean, it all starts in ag, right? Well, right. Yeah, I'm the golf, especially with the John Deere stuff. But yeah, that's a huge thing. I was explaining that to the architects and everything, everybody about the TV in the shop, and they were just kind of blown away with that stuff. Yeah, no, that's, that's super cool. And I'm with you. There's a lot of people, I guess, that might be scared of the technology, but. We just have to embrace it because it's coming, whether we want it to or not, and learn what we learn about it. Yeah, and there's like, you know, one thing they were saying is you can put geofences, you can designate geofences on the map of where you don't want the equipment to go. And then once that piece of equipment, any piece of the equipment that's got an MTG on it, goes into that geofence, then you get an alert on your phone. You know, more one is in the geofence, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's cool. Yup. And then I asked him eventually, is it going to be where it's like a golf cart where the cart shuts down to like crawl pace and then you got to back out. They say currently not, but it will eventually be that, or you can do that. We've got a lot of, we've got areas that we don't want carts or. Mowers driving through on the golf course, so You know pinch points or whatever. Well, right, right, right. Yeah, will it uh, keep an employee from cutting a corner with a trailer? Yeah, that's what I did Yeah, the only the only uh The only answer to that, Trent, is to make them walk. Sorry. Uh, no, I know, man. I know. I was, I've been telling everybody about that. I wish we could go to it. That'd be fine with me. Start walking. Well, dude, you saw it. Did I send you that picture at Oak Hill where that tiger had no tread lift on it? Yeah, right. And I've never seen one of those wear out. Yeah. They still have the little, they still have the little, most tigers you see still have the little whispers on them. Well, I've seen, yeah, Greensmoor tires that are 25 years old and they still have full thread, full tread on there. Full tread and the whiskers and then this one's bald. Oh, that, that, that was crazy. Crazy stuff. Uh, I don't know. If somebody else wants to talk, um, give me a break. Alright, yep. Anybody else want to jump in here? We might have put everybody else to sleep. Our new shop is going to be done, um, hopefully in the next couple of months. And, um, I'm about to pull the trigger on, uh, Williams Industrial, um, workstation island. Um, I'm trying to keep some wall space open for some other stuff and I thought a, uh, Like an island where I can walk all the way around with stainless steel top drawers on both sides and a cubby underneath to store my welder. Um, that'll kind of, like I said, just open up some wall space and kind of have all kinds of storage between the drawers. I'm going to try to make it into the shop toolbox. Um, stuff like that. So I guess I'm excited about that. Yeah, no, that is that's awesome and it reminds me of again at a lotion I can't remember what company they had Stronghold, yeah, there you go. Thank you stronghold Yeah, and they had like this whole workbench and it was dedicated for bed knives So they stored their bed knives in there. They had a vice on it. They had all the tooling they needed to change bed knives So, you know, it was their bed knife station and I thought that was really awesome and they had a stronghold stuff around I, I looked up that, that, uh, cabinet that you're talking about because I got a lot of stuff from stronghold quoted. Dude, that cabinet is like 9, 000. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. Yep. And then that, that really long work bench. Do you remember that thing in the uh, engineers department or whatever? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that thing, I, I think it's like 12 or 14 grand or something. Wow. I mean, that stronghold stuff's expensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why don't maybe look at Lista? That's who I got the, the real drawer system from. Yeah. At Midtown, and I want to say that was like... Six or seven grand, but and I don't remember the dimensions on it, but it's big. It's huge. Well, that thing's huge. Yeah. Yeah, and each one of those drawers will hold like 700 pounds. Yeah. Justin, what, what company did you say? Uh, Williams Industrial. It's actually a, um, uh, Snap on owns them. So I, so I've got, so we're a municipality. So my Snap on guy is an industrial dealer, so he doesn't have a franchise or anything. So any, any Snap on company, he can, he can, uh, we can get through him. So Williams, um, I'm trying to think of some of the other brands. Like, well, Bluepoint, obviously, Bako, um, stuff like that. Anything that, that Snap on owns. So that Williams Industrial, it's a lot like, uh, I'm pretty sure it's a lot like Stronghold and I know it's similar to Lista, um, but he just, he's my, my dealer, so I went through him and we get a pretty good discount to being a municipality. Um, but, but kind of the same idea. I think the, the, just the, the drawers in the island, um, like for, for tools and stuff, they can each hold like four or 500 pounds. So, I mean it. It's built to last. Um, that's kind of how I sold it. So it'll be there longer than, than my career for sure. Right, right. Yeah. That's sick. Well, that's another thing, Seth, um, that I thought of. Um, Brian Bressler, he's got probably the nicest air compressor I've ever seen. Um, at a maintenance shop. It's a rotary screw, Ingersoll ran. I mean, it's, it's a bad boy. Um, and I would think something like that would probably, uh, support your needs for airing tires up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't, you know, stuff like that. It's probably back in the day when you're, you know, I think a lot of these factories in this area still use like, I'm assuming pneumatic to power their machines and stuff. Yeah, I would think it's still popular. But as far as like, you know, blowing equipment off or blowing myself off with an airline, I don't, I don't really, I don't know, I don't think I really need that many CFMs or that big of an aircraft. I don't, I don't know. I'll see what they come back with. Well, I mean, yeah, if you got to run the airline all the way to, uh, you know, a blow off station or whatever, that distance and, you know. You get lost through the pipe and all that stuff. You might need something pretty heavy duty. And I would think if you're blowing equipment off, you want a pretty big, you know, nozzle on the end of that thing. I'd be pushing some CFM. Yep. I was going to do a, uh, like a pneumatic, like Jiffy Lube style oil for oil and hydraulic oil. But I, I mean, I was doing the math on it. In the shop, like if my shop currently, if I stayed that size, it would be great because the 50 foot hose would reach every corner of the shop. And, but, though, because the shop is the size that it's going to be, I would need. I, I didn't want to run like three different locations of oil coming down from the ceiling. So what I found is actually a Northern tool is an oil, like an, a 55 gallon cart. Uh, 55 ga it's a cart that holds a 55 gallon oil drum. And it's got the hose, like a 30 foot hose reel on it with the pneumatic pump. And you basically wheel it around to wherever you need it, hook it into an air hose, and then service your equipment from wherever it's at instead of dragging a hose across, having a hose lay across the shop while you're doing oil changes and stuff. So I think I'm going to go that route. And that's going to save probably like 30, 000. Oh, I'm sure. And you might want to talk to John Patterson too. He's, does he have those? Yeah, but it's not a 55 gallon drum. It's, it's a bigger, I don't know how much it holds, but they're on casters and they're big cubes and you can roll'em around, same deal, hook'em up to an air hose and then he has'em, he has a place, he kinda stores'em in the shop and I believe, yep. It, you know, he rolls'em out if he needs to, to get to something else. Yeah. Yeah, and that's, that's kind of how this will work. I mean, it's, I've got my own, the, we call the gas oil grease room, um, where we'll keep all the, the lube and mixed gas and stuff like that, and it's a separate room. And it'll have a roll up door, 8 foot by 8 foot roll up door to where, you got plenty of room to get in and out of there with those carts and stuff like that. Okay, yeah, yeah, that's great. And when, when's this going to be complete? I'm planning my trip back to Detroit. Dude, come up. I'm serious. Come up. I will. Don't worry. If you come up for the Junior Am, which you should, um, next July. I know that's a bad time. Yeah, that's a bad time. Grass isn't growing in Georgia in July, is it? No, it's uh, we're air fying the hell out of it in July. Right? Yeah. But, uh, November. Next November is supposedly what they're telling us. We can move in. Okay. Well, yeah, when's your tournament? Uh, July 22nd, I think. Oh, I might can do that, because most of our erifications are the first part of the month. Be a good excuse to get away. They can trash your reels and then you leave. Yeah, that's exactly right. So, good luck. Uh, well, good. Dale. Um, anybody else got anything they need to get out before we cut this off. I appreciate everybody being here and everybody's input. All right, then. And then Scott, if you're still listening, I'm going to give you a call later. If your girlfriend says that's okay. Yeah, definitely. All right. Yeah. I'm just making this announcement. All right. Good deal, man. Well, thank you. Thank you all. I appreciate you being here and, uh, we'll talk to you soon.